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By Martinminerva · Posted
These lettering "defects", I'm afraid, are simply the product of how the edge lettering and graining is manufactured: firstly, the blank planchets are incuse lettered by rolling/rotating them under pressure through drums or wheels which contain raised, "mirror" image lettering to impress the correct words into the edge. Then the lettered blanks are struck between regular dies with a plain, grained collar which imparts the "milling". And herein lies the problem - metal flow under the significant pressure of the dies where the milling coincides with the incuse letters can produce these anomalies as metal can fill some of the interstices to some or full degree. On your specimen above, the diagonal downstroke of the R is actually still visible, albeit faint, and even full "Pemember" examples are just where the metal flow has obscured that part of the R. Likewise with the M's - they are not a smaller font, just where metal has encroached on the incuse letter somewhat. A curiosity, yes, but common, yes, and error or variety, no, sorry. And as for value - two pounds, I'm afraid. -
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Yes, yes, it says pemember. But what's also interesting is that the "m" on Novemeber is noticeably smaller than the rest. Also the "R" on the November is very clearly a "P" it doesnt even look worn. It seems that the leg of the R just completely didn't print. My question, has anyone else had a coin with the same "m" defect? And also, this coin isnt in brilliant condition. Reasonably, how much do you think this could go for? -
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By Chris Perkins · Posted
It's not entirely bad, but there is certainly wear on the king's hair/beard/brow/cheek/tash/ear and on the lion's body/tail/feet and also on parts of the crown.
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