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    1. British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries

      This forum contains general discussion on all elements of British coinage throughout the ages. Enquiries and questions are also welcome. Note the separate sub-forums for Unlisted Varieties, Hammered (pre 1663) and Third Party Grading.

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      Discussions on Coin Publications/Rotographic. Past, present and future. See also www.coinpublications.com for more info.

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    1. Beginners area

      Start topics and discuss all the pros and cons about your experiences as a new coin collector.

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    2. Free for all

      Start topics/discussions on anything. Popular topics may lead to their own catagories being set up. Please keep the subject coin or at least money related!

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    3. Decimal Coins

      A forum to start topics on any decimal coins. Please feel free to answer and questions or help where you can.

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    4. Ancient Coins

      All about ancient coins. Buying them, selling them. Studying them. Ancient Greek, Celtic, Roman Imperial/Rupublic, Byzantine and other issues pre c.500 AD.

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    5. Enquiries about Non British coins

      Post any enquiries about coins that are not British or that you think are not British, here. The experienced collectors usually deal with questions quite quickly.

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  4. Nothing whatsoever to do with coins area!

    1. Forum technical help and support

      Post forum related queries here, and please feel free to answer to people or add your own advice/help on a particular aspect of using this forum.

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    • Hi Jerry, this variant is documented and I have seen at least one more for sale on eBay currently, but that is all I can find.  
    • The 1859 is interesting, not a deliberate ‘ribbon’ I suspect, perhaps a die flaw or foreign body impact or result of die clash but if more than a ‘one off’ could become collectable though probably not at a massive premium. The 1858 small date is scarce rather than rare, unless combined with large rose reverse which yours is not. Maybe a small premium over large date but value is low  I think due to poor condition. Jerry
    • Hi, Newby to the site, first post. I have an 1859 penny, with a variant that I cannot find much information on. “ Tie ribbon between curl and neck”   Also there is no W.W., not sure if this as standard. I would be grateful is someone could give me an idea of rarity, grade and value? I also have recently got an 1858 small date, again would like an idea of grade, rarity and value.
    • many thanks for looking into this, the previous owner was a long time ago before I would have got it circa 1990's so Its great to finally have these looked and corrected, as all that I now have identified live in a page with others and I retain all of the information with the coins...albeit parts of coins .... very well done and much appreciated  🙏
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