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The Ebay description was rather erm "odd" as well.
"This is a British Victoria Penny coin from 1862, minted during the reign of Queen Victoria (1837-1901). It is a copper coin with a brown colour. The denomination of the coin is one Penny. It was manufactured in the United Kingdom, specifically Great Britain."
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Yes, I know. I tried posting there and kept getting "403 error" so I tried here instead and had no problem.
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I don't think it is a repro. Picture still has some of the Sovereign rarities border! Just a fraudster trying it on.
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FYI there are a few toy coins coming up for sale in The Coinery auction 16th February.
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I created my own database set of tables using FileMaker Pro - this is just four of the tables showing one of the coins:
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wouldn't be a joke in America where they pronounce it ‘booey’ not ‘boy’!
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there's a hammered forum here
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my best guess - and that's all it is - is that they might have been an attempt to try and resolve all the problems caused by conversion from large thick copper to smaller thin bronze. The sheer number of varieties that occur between 1860 and 1862 shows the scale of the issues they had, the repairs needed, and the huge number of dies involved.
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the 1806 is a halfpenny not penny - but quite common in that grade and not worth expensive treatment. if you didn't mind the resulting retoning (paler) you could immerse overnight in balsamic vinegar which would dissolve the verdigris into darker patches.
not to be done on a more valuable coin of course
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if anything at all it might be a 6 … or a cud
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that is alarmingly convincing for a repro
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the 1929 is a florin not a shilling - as you can see from the reverse!
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will look forward to seeing these
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Thanks Kai, I’ll get some photos over the next couple of days.
Jerry
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Hi Jerry, Rogers ‘Toy Coins’ is the best reference, but it is long out of print, and quite difficult to source now. If you post some pictures on here, I can try and identify them for you, as might some of the other members. Kai
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What is the best reference for these tiny coins? I couldn’t resist buying a bag of them at the MCF today and I would like to be able to read up on them in addition to the excellent info here. Is Rogers ‘Toy Coins’ still the one to buy? If so, if anyone can point me in the right direction please do so, internet searches have drawn a blank.
thanks,
Jerry
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If he's happy to pay full spot price for the scrap ones, I'd snap his hand off. Still 83p. Just looked.
I don't think even the silver traders can sell at spot price. No margin for mark up or allowances for the price to fall.
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Get in quickly before the seller realises his penny is rarer than he thinks !
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365385571973?itmmeta=01JKJVQX0KNWD9KD5GMB7SZMQS&hash=item5512ad5e85:g:-tMAAOSwyJdnpzIT&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmd3rWHm7PGuXEWO1Ux%2F%2BdVbTpqL%2FBdZSTI9YtFe5Td2fddr8mWMsQocTd%2BMYiar5aug7inNeaBJjBokcFmPqMpJDwaT%2F62FO%2FMxR5YjImW5jESQ2onNx0ahYBZdsy2UFAz3LvKvILGUiBBp2vpbyAiatrV91ouIz%2FLM4x%2F2lz%2FtlL8RjF%2F25t7wdkSSwkmqnqcLFnI%2FuSBMl1ceTdRXMbVBIzUG%2BtHcdQ2EsNLUxALNCd1BLeDe9VmlOpTHw3EE9a4cSA9Js2qz8WL1tSRueR1|tkp%3ABk9SR7jQ39ucZQ
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I had a interested party and was advised the following......
Hi. I collect silver threepence's - the silver price is high. If you want to sell all you have I will pay spot 83p per gram ASW.
They are 1.41grams each.
1919 and earlier = 1.30 grams asw 1919 and earlier = £1.08 each
1920 to 1946 = 0.70 grams asw 1920 to 1946 = £0.58 each
my response is...
so i'm still open to offers and even trades... cheers "H"
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1855 Halfpenny Could there be and overdate ?
Hi I have a few 1855 Halfpennies. Looking again at one of them, it looks as it the second 5 in the date might be over another date ?
I wondered, if it is an overdate, what it might be ?
Best Regards !
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Apologies - just realised I've asked the same question as Paddy !
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Would anyone know where I can buy Verdi-care in the UK or would I need to order it from the USA ?
Many thanks !
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I’m not sure that the answer is straightforward. Although this variety is listed in the appendix of the most recent Freeman, it (in common with other new discoveries) has not been allocated a Freeman number. In reality, the variety is no more an F38 than an F39 as in both cases the obverses are different and so it is not a sub-variety of either. All I can do is tell you what I do in these circumstances, pending a complete revision of Freeman. I catalogue my pennies by date primarily, Freeman number secondarily (occasionally Gouby No where he recognises the type) and in the absence of any published varietal identifier I write something like ‘not in Freeman’ and a summary of what makes it different eg ‘Freeman 3+G’ or ‘14 teeth’ or whatever. That has the advantage that it is universally applicable, anybody reading my tickets knows what he is dealing with.
Jerry
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