I am not sure how to be more clear. I don't care about the grade that much and am not going to waste the money to send it in to PCGS. Also, PCGS doesn't know much of anything about Civil War Tokens as they just started grading them in the past year. NGC has been grading them for 20+ years. ANA standards are what we Yankees use for grading coins. It is very different from the UK system, yes. As I have already said before though I collect what I like...and I like this token and the price was fair regardless of what the label says the grade is.