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It's very difficult to take good images. I find mine invariably look as if the coin has been cleaned and hairlined which is a problem when using the flash. I overcome this to some extent by putting a piece of greaseproof paper in front of it to diffuse the light. The two sides never come out the same brightness though and the background colour seems to influence the colour shift, so it is rare to get a satisfactory picture. Taking enough good images to upload is a problem, so you have to make do with what you've got. There are just too many variables to provide images of a consistent quality.

At the time of the OP i did'nt know who the coin belonged to and as everyone says, we all have our own opinions, and again in my opinion it should'nt be an aFDC grade, it has far to many problems, nor should it be an AU grade fro the same reasons, i gave it my opinion of grade based of the pictures and from those it has been cleaned and has some field digs. Mark, your fascination of my opinion is also welcome, see above paragragh for my reasoning, we all buy coins from auction houses and we don't get to take them home on approval beforehand, so pictures is obiously what most have to go by, Neil, i think we spoke before on another thread about my Edward VI shilling compared to yours and you mentioned you needed to get your photographer to sort them out, i'd still say the same now, the pictures are'nt the best, i throw up pictures the size of dinner plates to receive any grumblings of a coin i've purchased so i can learn should i try and upgrade I guess some peoples opinions will differ, this will always be the case and it should'nt be taken to heart, but as you can see Neil, no one agreed with your aFDC grade and at the time no one knew who's coin it was, so it was'nt an attack against you, it was the grade opinion that was asked for and not an attack on the seller, we are all here to help one another and when it comes to grading NO ONE is going to agree, especially on here Try and chill and i agree with Mark, i'd like to see more of your posts

Neil, Anyone that has bought from you knows you grade accurately and fairly. I dont think your response is unreasonable at all. It is only when you get the coin in the hand that photo's are clarified. Anyone who has tried taking accurate pictures will confirm that the camera can lie. Your point about magnification blowing small marks out of all proportion is true also. I for one would like to see you post on hear more often. Your experience is very much appreciated. Kind regards Mark

Your opinion and no more as is mine. The only difference is I tried to compare with a known reference something missing in your opinion.