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  1. 2 points
    It will be articulated to the members of parliament in any case. But the 120,000 must be residents of Germany in order to get a statement from the parliamentarians. Regardless to that every vote coming from outside enhances the political weight as well. This lets our parliament and our society know that people from all over the world are monitoring there decisions. The more votes are collected, the more interesting it is for newspapers & magazines to make that problem public. Until now the commision tried to develop the law "under the public radar". The main issue is, that we have to make this petition public all over the globe and activate as many collectors as possible (from various collecting fields, not coins only as stated out before)... This exactly is what I am trying to say. Prevent other governments of western countries in preparing similar plans
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    https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/fuer-den-erhalt-des-privaten-sammelns?language=en_GB.utf8 Here a citation from that particular web side The stipulations of the amendment of the law on the Protection of Cultural Heritage threaten the collecting of cultural objects by private individuals. This law will effect everybody specialized in traditional collecting fields, such as books, stamps, furniture, ceramics, coins, classic cars and paintings. Retroactively, this new law will impose due diligence guidelines that are impossible to follow even for the most meticulous collector. When it comes to a dispute, the law will require, by reversing the burden of proof, the owner of a “cultural good” with a value of at least 2,500 euros to provide proof as to the item’s provenance for the previous 20 years; this affects “archaeological cultural goods” with a value as low as 100 euros. This is an unrealistic demand which misrepresents most of the objects that are currently traded on the domestic and the international art market in full accordance with the law as being illegal, and will result in a considerable decline in value of the objects in question. We therefore demand a law on the Protection of Cultural Heritage that observes the following principles: • No retroactive effect of the law • No reversal of the burden of proof • A clear definition of the term “national cultural heritage” and a limit to claims by the state to “national cultural heritage” only • Free movement, unimpaired by bureaucratic obstacles, of cultural goods which are not classified as “natural cultural heritage”, EU-wide, according to the free movement of goods • An appropriate participation by the parties representing collectors and dealers in the law-making process For centuries collectors have protected cultural heritage. Private collecting adds to national efforts and promotes the tradition’s preservation in all its variety, in a way museums alone could never accomplish. Collecting is an immaterial cultural heritage that is currently threatened by the latest drafts of the new German law on the Protection of Cultural Heritage. In the name of all signers.
  3. 1 point
    Two right hand pieces. Top is Turkish 20 para Galata Bridge passage token. Due to a shortage of small change, they became de facto money. Around 1920s IIRK. Bottom right, just google imitation ottoman. i.e. belly dancer coins.
  4. 1 point
    Yet there are 4,805 supporters. Please sign that petition, let other people now, distribute that petition throughout social media network and other collectors forums (eg books, stamps, ceramics, gramophone records, ect) Here the link once again: https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/fuer-den-erhalt-des-privaten-sammelns
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    Many thanks for your post. Most likely that the case of Gurlitt had an impact on this. Still that law proposal will destroy collecting of common people, serving particular interests of fundamentalist archaeologists. I doubt that it would help to rescue cultural heritage and more important to enhance public interest in cultural heritage.
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    I noticed in the description of what's happening in Germany that it states "when it comes to a dispute" so I'm assuming the 20 year provenance comes into play when someone lays claim to a Coin or hoard of coins? I signed this last night but it's actually the first time i've heard of this here, must keep up to date with it in the upcoming months. I wonder if they started this due to the guy in Munich who had paintings from the Nazi era which were found in his basement in Schwabing and a few heads laid claim to them being taken from relatives when Hitler was siezing things like this during the war?
  7. 1 point
    how is that law going to even work. you buy something that's been in someones loft for years off ebay.. that happens to have something worth that much money in it. German laws? some things are banned under German law that people collect though. how would those fit in?





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