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The lovely Mrs Bagerap was reading over my shoulder and saw “In Very Good Condition for its age” "Not talking about you then" she remarked.

My advice would be to buy minimum EF grade (if its affordable to you) lower grade coins will sit and sit and eventually As you've said in your Post (Start upgrading) which is a Little false economy because you're effectively paying twice for the similar coin but just in a better grade. Its better to have 10 coins in high/top grade than 100 coins in low grade, it will mean a smaller collection but worth more. Just my opinion, each collector is different in their approach to collecting

I think you raise a good point that's often missed by a lot of us who have (or have had) large collections, and long-since moved beyond that desperate feeling of not really having a collection until you've got a few coins. If you don't go crazy, I think buying a few lesser grades is a good thing, but stick to a small area and keep looking for the same coin and dates for upgrades. You'll lose a bit of money this way but, boy, when the 3rd upgrade drops on your door mat, you'll come close to skimming your first purchase across a lake, such will be your enlightenment. To be honest it's no good expecting novices to buy well from the very beginning, whatever advice is given, because you need to know what a rubbish coin is first. If you have to rely on experts from the outset you'll never come close to becoming one yourself...just don't make your education too expensive. I did exactly the same thing as you...and so did everyone else on here, whether they admit it or not! The only consolation I can offer you re the money you'll lose along the way is that, one day, you'll sell one or two that will start to address the balance, especially when the time comes that you make fewer, and hopefully smaller, mistakes? Happy collecting Nons!

Blumen, right now you've going through a different generation, keep up the attitude and the knowledgable here won't want too speak or respond to you, so chill the flow out You talk sugar ,i have just read your post again and your out of order. I wont be posting again on the forum as you think you own it. Dozens of people get pissed off with your attitude and negativity and dont post or log on again. You will have a forum soon were you will be talking to yourself ,dont please tell me to chill out .

Thanks to Michael Roo for drawing my attention to this topic, one of the most interesting in relation to 20th Century coins. I have a slight disagreement with Michael Freeman about the date of the '1922 Modified Effigy' penny, but I'm partway through a series of articles that are on Mark's (Sound) website, also to be published by Coin News, so I'm afarid you will have to wait to read my own theory on it. However, it's a fascinating subject and I've enjoyed reading all your comments about it.