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It helps when the marketing is blatantly that and not a genuine attempt at qualifying the amount of wear a coin has.

Would be very useful indeed!The only other thing I take note of too is the rarity as defined by Freeman because it gives a general idea of the quantity out there. Adding anything now is a challenge anyway because of the sheer number of coins you have, but as it stands it's still an amazing reference for penny collectors! It would have to be adjusted to reflect new discoveries of known to him varieties plus census/estimated rarity of "not in Freeman" varieties (i.e.: Gouby varieties, etc.).. John Jerrams made a notable attempt in his SATIN reference, however as that was many years ago, even that is now outdated...

Freeman doesn't differentiate between Gouby A and B. The big difference which you can only see on unworn specimens is in the engraving on Victoria's cape. On obverse A the stem of the upper right clover leaf is long and stretches down to the rose on the left. On obverse B, the stems of the two top right clover join below them at the top of the third clover leaf. The clover leaves are smaller on obverse B. Gouby then goes on to note 2 minor variations in obverse A - one where the R & E of REG touch at the bottom and the other where R is rotated slightly so that its toe is a little below the back of the E. Pretty geeky stuff ! But the Ebay coin is clearly an obverse A. If you want to see pictures, take a look at my collection website which I'm putting together (thanks to members who have given me tips) Address is www.englishpennies.wordpress.com Freeman 763 is one of the more common examples of the early beaded patterns but still a rare coin.

I agree but the way it read was that they Quadrums were in stock here. I had previosuly checked, saw they were not here and ordered elsewhere. I, wrongly, took your post as an indication that Chris now stocked the Quadrums.