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Anyone who has NOT bought off me over the last week . Which unfortunately rules out quite a few If you have made over Twenty posts and collect pennies would like to send you a free one. A 1937 is graded UNC CGS slabbed. Happy to send FREE of charge just PM me your address. Pete.

the picture Terry

What have I done to deserve this?

Another 1897 but this time standard date width. Graded CGS 78 so unc. Same as the other one i sold £30 including postage. Pete

Legend, I've also got the 1985 and must've skimmed over that last part 2 or 3 times without noticing it. I was looking for the word milled as well, god knows why I missed it all those times. That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks Mike (and thanks for typing it out too )

Matt, I've got the 1985 edition. At page 19, MF writes the following:- Hope this helps.

Yes I remember reading it somewhere too - they were definitely in his first book but not in his latest edition.

Happy hunting mate. Its nice when you find one that is different. Be lucky and keep smiling. Pete.

Brian. When you start looking at most copper pennies closely they all/most have differences and have been recut or different. The scarcer ones are more obvious such as on Richards site of which the time well spent looking. This means they are easier to spot on Ebay pictures etc. Pete.

The quick and the dead.

Again cant get rid of this................ Matt. Gary schindler will point you to the thread on this forum or help. He has a couple. Pete

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One day , when you're famous (or dead) this will be worth a fortune !

Lot 2462 at the March Auction has prompted me to write. I reference Page 93 of Gouby’s 2009 book in which he documents type 1898Aa (10.5 teeth) and 1898B (11 teeth). My understanding is that his type ‘B’ was assigned because of the different style of the second numeral 8. Had it not been for this different style of numeral 8 then he would have assigned a wider 11 teeth date spacing as 1898Ab, in the same manner as he has done for many other years in his book. The style of the second 8 on his 1898B, where the “bisect lines – align at the centre” he says is scarce. My experience is that this Style B type of 8 is only seen on the Widow Head (1895-1901) series in 1898. I think, however, that it is always seen on the Bun Heads up until 1894. I would be interested to find out if other members have different findings. Attached is a reference picture showing the two different types of 8, both taken from the same 1898 penny in my own collection. As far as Lot 2462 is concerned it looks to me as though the date width has been correctly identified as 11 teeth, but the second numeral 8 is NOT the scarce Gouby B type.

Alfnail knows his coppers and some quality pictures

I have about 10 or so now, that one was £30 Some of my others here: https://pwcoins.wordpress.com/house-of-hanover/george-iii-1760-1820/conder-tokens/

You can also get the same sort of 'shelf' doubling from incorrectly hubbing a die, there's a handful of ways that it can happen and it's not uncommon to have the doubling on just a colon, but it would take some investigating to work out if it was that or like you say just the handy work of the engraver.

Yes, think re-cut F, pretty sure have seen this several times. Similar to the more well known 1841Bramah 2c variety pictured below, although this time the underlying F protrusions are higher. If one looks at enough copper pennies I think repairs to every letter (and numeral) in the legend can be found, although some are far more obvious than others. All the B2c's I have seen also display those faint marks around the DEF Colon, which I believe must to be repairs to both dots......again dot repairs are often seen, although I think perhaps less common.

I would have said F over lower F, although the base of the underlying F is not evident this may have been the reason for the recut. Very similar to a lot of farthing recuts noticeably the 1849 4/lower 4 where the base is missing

Here's to a long and happy new numismatic friendship!

Not sure how much interest there is in these (unless they are stunning high grade lustrered examples), but bought this iconic Iron bridge token this morning (seller's pic, mine to come)

Colin, you'll be glad to know I've gone through up to 1956, and the only thing I've found that might be noteworthy is some extra metal on the base of the neck on my 1941. Have a look and see what you make of it - seen anything like it before? So you're off the hook now, you'll be glad to know. Who's the resident halfpenny expert I need to pester now then?

Having been active both in 2002 and in 2013 I think I can paint a picture of what the penny market was like about 15 years back. As I have mentioned previously the market then was very buoyant. The reason for this is simple you had far too many buyers with deep pockets then. We still have many buyers but I am of the opinion that they are not as many nuts (penny freaks) as there used to be in the early 2000s especially the ones that did not care too much about splashing out. Tony C put together an impressive collection in less than a decade and he could not have done it if he were bargain hunting. Crocker, Broothy, Workman, Bamford, Davies, Morgan and Charlie were just some of the names associated with pennies in those days. So, few people bought the lot, the rest had to keep looking. Let me give you an example when (a forum member’s) 1933 penny came up for sale I was among the many buyers trying to raise the 50k that was the initial asking price. I went to my bank to have my house re mortgaged to raise the 50k and by the time I had an agreement (within days) the asking price was 75k because the seller had offers in that region. I was not even in touch with the seller then, the news was through secondary sources. I am still in touch with the veterans, Davies in particular, but they have all got a pretty complete set (in high grades apart from the obvious 1933, 1952, 1954 or 1864 crosslet in unc) so many of these buyers are hardly interested in what comes to the market these days. If one of those true rarities comes to the market then I am sure we will witness carnage. Further in the last 10 years many major penny collections have come to the market (Alderney, Workman, Crocker, Bamford, Forest Park, ….). There is enough material for the second tier collector to be interested but nothing for the big boys. The last big penny to hit the market was the 1827 CGS 80 coin acquired by Boothy(?); and Davies who has a better specimen was the under-bidder. I also feel that we will not see another collection like the Gerald Jackson collection - mules in MS 64 RB, 1882 no H in 64 RB. That was a once in a lifetime opportunity that hardly any of us were interested in due to the poor quality of photographs. Re the Els collection I am hoping the seller gets a fair price but I am not too sure the current penny market is in the bull region.

Mr T . I was wondering about how it was caused . when you look extremely close with a magnifying glass, you can see the minute lines from the grinding of the flat surfaces running right through from the open flat area, into the bare area where the waves should [ I must get myself a close up camera] . I thought that if this was caused by grease or dirt , the complete individual wavy would disappear , and not leave just the points of what on the normal coin are much larger waves, so I would think it must be the result of the top of that part of the die being ground down lower , and so loosing definition Terry

Not any known ones, and a few of us have been keeping an eye out the last couple of months at least. It's possible, but innocent until proven guilty I say..

Maybe not - there's a huge range of coins but only a relatively limited audience with presumably limited funds, so collectors will have to be choosy about what they buy. When Laurie Bamford's collection was sold, prices were generally quite low (in my opinion) because of this. There will be some bargains !!!!

Considering over 100 million were struck, I found this one of the harder dates to find in top grade/with a good strike. I think this would be my 3rd upgrade, but definitely getting there. Very happy.

Apologies to any farthing/copper collectors as I'm sure this will not impress! This is not my main focus, but I like to have an example, and this is my best one