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Interesting as I was just looking over my shillings to see if there were possible upgrades and see Proolike strikes on most years from 1838-1849 & then some more in the 1850s as well. Also, the 1880s and right on through the Jubs - some of those that have been listed as Record proofs from non-standard years such as 1889-91 IMO are not fully proof; nor are they substantially different or better from some of the PLs I've seen.

Legend, I've also got the 1985 and must've skimmed over that last part 2 or 3 times without noticing it. I was looking for the word milled as well, god knows why I missed it all those times. That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks Mike (and thanks for typing it out too )

On closure inspection there seems to have been a few recuts to this die. Here are a couple more pictures from the reverse of my 1858 penny. No idea whats going on with the G of REG and the final AR of BRITANNIAR definitley look to have been retooled/cut.

To be honest....and i am being A couple i will buy ,prepared to pay well over the odds. The proofs dont do anything for me ...so i am out. If i bought one proof would then be spending time and money looking for all of them Thats about it really . Pete.

To be fair, as all their debt is dollar denominated, Janet Yellen did them no favours with the rate rise but I believe that huge percentages of that debt have found their way to Deutsche Bank and BNP. Both of these institutions are regarded as critically overstretched and should one, or both, hit problems it could be Goodnight Vienna for Glencore.

Funnily enough Rockerfella and Rothschild sold all their oil assets 2 years ago when the oil price was at its peak. These are the people who are influencing and dictating wars and the global economy, they both stated they wanted to invest in renewable energy. Then we have Gadaffi, oil price is sold in US dollars, Gadaffi wanted to start selling in Dinar, why is there war in Syria, because the rich American families was to drill in the Gollan heights. Did you realise that the Bush family is the most influential family in America? Went to war twice in Iraq by both Bush Sr and Junior, now Jeb Bush is on the presidential trail, it makes you wonder which country is next and how one family can have 2 former presidents in it and a possible 3rd. The oil market is being flooded to keep the price low because some countries such as Russia rely on the revenue, if it's weak then they don't have much cash. Now America have made a fragile truce with Iran, Iranian oil was banned from being sold on the western markets, now with the truce in place Iran is now allowed too sell it again which in turn will drop the price even more. There is more to what we see other than a huge and sudden influx of new oil fields, this is a game that's being played out by major money players and most of them are in America. http://youtu.be/7KsxT3woFdw P.s, I have nothing against our American friends here, I'm just saying that something is getting played out by people who can influence Governments and markets and it seems most of them are in America