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I had a great day, got the N over N sideways, lcw under foot, nice 4F, E over P and lots of lesser coins, and paid over the odds for the books but I wanted the Jerrams volumes. Also bought the 1879 with the 'shuttle' above the lighthouse . Great to meet Richard, pretty in pink, sad not to see Pete but Semra said he had not turned up. Nice lunch in Spoonies between the penny sections. And hot chocolate in Starbucks on the way home. Perfect day. Jerry

Out.....it is all about decision making and making our elected representatives responsible for their actions, and that is something we currently can not do whilst in Europe. It is a geographical region made up of different cultures, lifestyles, and political parties that all rightly pull for their own interests. This is not what I want for my country where decisions are made that may not necessarily suit us. Whether you believe in an increase in migration or want to control immigration, this is a debate we can have as a nation after we have left the EU and we will actually be able to control the outcome this time, and hold our elected members accountable for the outcome. I see guidance for construction introduced from Europe, and you can see how a perfectly workable British Standard that was created by a working party with input from interested parties in each in individual field is replaced by a standard that tries to do the same thing across EU but you can see the bureaucratic involvement within. For example all religious buildings are exempt from the energy efficiency requirements, this aspect was introduced by European guidance. The result is that any religious building in the UK does not have to meet the same energy efficiency requirements that all other buildings in the UK would under Building Regulations. They are all exempt from any energy conservation requirements. It is understood this was introduced because of the number of small orthodox churches in Greece and other EU countries..but the guidance has to be applied to all building that fall into the category. We are constantly told that control for Local Authorities needs to be devolved because we are trying to apply Government guidance and that "one size does not fit all" across the country...and yet we are now being told that the exact opposite is beneficial in Europe. Don't be blinded by the argument that environmental and equality issues were the positive aspect of the EU, as a nation we have always tried to do the right thing and I do believe that if we had not been in the EU we would still have the same moral principles that we do now regarding the environment and equality, in fact we may have been leading the way!! Finally I find it quite bizarre that we tell the rest of the world how they must sit around the table to negotiate in areas where conflict is present, and then groups of people on both sides of this debate who normally would not politically align on other issues can not stand together on a stage and campaign for what they supposedly believe in for this debate...I think a lot of those involved need to take a good look at themselves. If anyone thinks they are going to get truthful facts on this debate...I would not hold your breath...they are unlikely to surface. My gut instinct tells me that we need to be out and if I am wrong then I will live with the consequences..I just want my politicians to take the same responsibility for their actions like I will and that is achieved by voting out.

Great buy! Was out this morning so never saw any of the new listings! Great addition to your error collection ?

Dont get greedy or you will be.......Joining the caravan.........

Thats quality Not my thing but i would of bought that..........infact Matt think you should sell it me .

Was listed on eBay this morning. After a bit of negotiating it should be on it's way to me tomorrow

Get ready for your eyes to hurt.

As many will know we have been running a series of articles on the JNCoins website looking at the reign of George V. Chris (Peckris), who's knowledge of GV coinage is on a supperior level from probably most of us, has been writing the series for us. These articles in amended format have been running in Coin Monthly. Now Chris has revisited the fourth article, see the link below. http://www.jncoins.co.uk/JNC/en/content/25-gv This involves some fascinating speculation that you may feel you want to post comments upon, on this thread. I'm sure this will encourage Chris out of hibernation, something to be welcomed in itself. Kind regards Mark

Probably. This country is only divided from Europe by the English Channel. In the case of slabs, the gulf is as wide as the Atlantic

Indeed. But is that not a far bigger issue that an EU in / out referendum?

If someone in the room bid it should be yours, but if someone put in a commission bid at the same max before you it should be theirs

Oh, that's' definitely an "Out, Out, Out!" Colin!

I admit to knowing insufficient about the issues. However David makes some very good points. Daughter dearest went to France and Spain as part of her degree. In France she not only received EU funding via Erasmus, but French housing benefits to pay the cost of her lodging and a salary from the school she worked at. She needed no visa to travel in or out of the country, had no problems (other than natural French bureaucracy) with issues such as registering with a doctor. If we were 'out' I can't imagine that being the case. I remember holidaying abroad as a kid. The restrictions on taking Sterling out of the country and the hassle of multiple currencies. Seems to me that our kids live in a better time with freer access to travel and jobs in Europe. We live in a world where travel for economic reasons has become commonplace. This benefits not just those who come to Britain from abroad, but us and our children. I would be very sorry to see this situation change. Yes, EU bureaucracy is unwieldy and the power balance unfair. I'm not saying that changes aren't needed. But in an increasingly 'global' world, becoming more isolated (whether politically, physically or psychologically) seems to me to be a retrograde step. Better in with influence than out I reckon. .

Personally, i think that the immigration issue is a red herring. All countries can benefit by importing the skills that can't be met internally. Let's face it, on the numismatic front we can go back to the Short Cross coinage of Henry II when Philip Aimer of Tours was brought over to cut the new coinage. J P Droz, Mestrelle, the Roettiers etc. were all brought in to do a job, so immigrants are nothing new - we need them. We just need to be selective. Australia, Canada, the US and many others keep strict controls on immigration, we should be no different The crux of the issue is that all countries want to be masters of their own destiny, even those that are committed to the EU, which is why there is no clarion call for a politically unified Europe and ultimately that is why it must fail as a project. It can only work if all the countries pull in the same direction without regard to their sovereign interests. Ain't gonna happen.

Alan sent me a picture via email to share, of an 1865/3 but with a dot under the Y. He is interested if anyone else has an example like this.

That it was inert? Still, it gave me the opportunity to test the cleaning power of acetone: