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  1. 2 points
    The standard works on George VI pennies list three reverses:- A - The sea level on the right extends to the centre of a border tooth; the upright limbs of N in ONE point to teeth (5 teeth from limb to limb); the exergual line consists of a large raised line with a very fine second line below it - 1937 only B - Similar to Reverse A except that the sea level on the right now extends to just above a border tooth; the two upright limbs of N in ONE both points to a gap; there are 4 complete teeth between the limbs. - 1937 to 1940 (the 1940 with reverse B is usually referred to as "single exergue line" C - Similar to Reverse B except that the exergual line is in lower relief – 2 fine lines separated by an incuse groove; the waves just above the exergue have been retouched and are now separate from the exergual line. - This reverse was used from 1940 to 1951. - the 1940 with reverse C is referred to as "double exergue line" C* - Is the notation used by both Groom, and the new Freeman to describe the variety of the 1944 penny with the terminal 4 pointing to the centre of a wave. Although recut waves are cited for C* , both references list reverse C for dates 1945-1951. I propose that C* is significantly different from C to warrent it's redefinition as die D. The exergue lines are now clearly double, making them much easier to see than on the 1940 & 1944 reverse C. The waves are sharply recut and are clear of the exergue lines. This die is used 1944 to 1951. I would argue that the 1944 varieties are not a trivial date width variation but two distinct dies
  2. 2 points
    For a number of reasons I decided to start having my coins certified and graded by NGC. That is not a discussion I want to get into here. However, I did want to share my first impressions based on the batch of 20 coins I sent in. First, cost. I chose the elite level of membership because of the ten percent discount. Cost per coin is $35, less 10% plus shipping for the standard turnaround time. So probably around $40/coin. You can do an economy grading tier which is $20/coin less the 10% and I will use that for a number of my coins. Second, turnaround. I sent the coins by US priority mail on the 24th August and, according to their system, the grading has been finalised and I should get them back towards the middle or end of next week. So approximately two weeks door to door. Third, grades. I am both happy and unhappy but I completely understand where they get the grades from. 11 of the 20 were graded MS62 or better with a high spot of MS66. There were four AU 58 and one AU 53. There were also four 'details', one for a scratch and three for hairlines. While the grading is strict, when I look closely at the coins I can see where they get that from. Conclusions. Where you buy your coins matters if you cannot see them 'in hand'. Coins I bought from Glendinning's in the past and DNW in the past few years consistently did better than coins bought elsewhere (not counting Heritage where they are already slabbed). Three of my four 'problem coins' came from London Coins. Not to beat about the bush, their photography flatters to deceive and their descriptions are, shall we say, 'economical'. Unfortunately, my bids are already in for this next auction but that will be the last one of their auctions that I buy from. Clearly, DNW has a more rigourous and professional approach when it comes to grading and describing coins than LCA. Furthermore, buying from a named and known collection also gives better results. My MS66 came from the Late Neil B. Todd Collection which DNW sold. Provenance does matter. The other lesson is to examine carefully the coin before I send it in. No point paying good money for grading a coin that has problems. I did not send my best or most valuable coins in this first batch as I didn't know what to expect. However, I think their process is pretty good and I am comfortable sending other coins to them.
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  4. 1 point
    Sorry Brian i meant the N but maybe your right and it is the light
  5. 1 point
    The waves merge Brian on the one on the left look at the wave on the right side of the ex it has no gap. The N of penny also appears to be to Gap rather than tooth.
  6. 1 point
    Both look to be the same date spacings. common type , but the left looks like the single Exergue , though as you say not easy to tell from pictures Terry p s All the new different date types were bought from America , I wonder if some sort of special issue of pennies were despatch to or made by the Americans during the War
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    That should look spectacular when cleaned up, great find, well done Brian.
  9. 1 point
    Pennies 1944 - 1951 - all with recut waves
  10. 1 point
    Wow, that's a whole lotta wood for £5.99! Good buy
  11. 1 point
    Second hand shop for £5.99. Dust and grime all over it so hadn't even been cleaned......
  12. 1 point
    That's a lovely case Brian where did you get it? Will look great if it turns out anything like the last
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  14. 1 point
    I'd also leave it alone, sometimes coins are the way they are because of honest wear/usage, it's part of their history and charm, what you do to it cannot be undone and may then lose it's appeal to you and to anyone else (if you ever want to sell it)
  15. 1 point
    I would disagree with "best for the bin" The coin has been around since 1899 and had a life. Leave it alone. Nice photos btw.
  16. 1 point
    The point is Pete that nothing about their service has changed other than they want another £99 a year to view the coins you already own and have in your hand, as i said, it's an individual choice and not making an argument out of it I'm also having coffee
  17. 1 point
    Compared to many on this page I am quite a small time collector not having a large disposable income. However my collection is still quite extensive. I collect raw coinage like thousands of other collectors and house them in capsules. I take care when handling my coins and have learned to recognise grade and eye appeal. I enjoy other peoples input and help with my collecting and am learning continuously, as I am sure I will till I stop collecting or more than likely pass on to my kids. Surely most collectors still collect this way. I enjoyed using the population reports and the information on the CGS website but think the work ethic they have shown, and to me, the disrespect shown toward their customers in the way they have underhandedly pulled the rug out from everyone. LC and CGS were and still are the same people. The fee is in my opinion a ransom to previous customers and a block to many who would have thought of slabbing in the future. I will repeat what has been said above, it is everyone's decision how to spend their money. I just know that £99 to me is a major sum. I don't have to be reassured about grading as feel reasonably confident am happy collecting the old fashioned/ more common way. If I need a second opinion I am also happy to ask others. I certainly can't see how buying raw coinage is harder than encased ones. Except for the inflated prices that often come along with the plastic. Its about buying the coin not what its in. If the worry is dropping them place them in well designed capsules such as Quadrums. Many of the new generation capsules also have anti toning and Verde guarantees. So win win. Just my opinion
  18. 1 point
    I think firstly i'm going to mention the valuation, the company formerly known as CGS values their product, the valuations don't appear in any publications, so therefor it's their own opinion which doesn't match the market valuation, how many times have you purchased a CGS coin at say an 85 or so and paid the exact CGS valuation for it? The next thing from your post is the ability to view graded coins and their valuations within CGS, this was a free service and had run for several years or since conception of the company the bottom line for the change/charge is that Stephen Lockett thinks that people are undermining his other business of London coins by buying/trading their CGS graded coins. Do i want to see all my coins, this is a curious one, because i take all of my pictures i can see ALL my coins on my macbook anytime i wish without have to pay £99 fee for the privelidge, how can London coins stop you from y=taking your own pictures in a slab and posting it wherever you wish, this point i do find silly, coins can be swapped/traded by the owner of the coin regardless if it's slabbed by CGS/PCGS or NGC, those last 2 companies don't charge you to view their population reports. I don't think anyone is against anyone paying the fee, after all, it's your cash to throw around anyway you see fit, i just see the whole thing as an attempt to stem a flow that Stephen Lockett saw, the other thing that irks me about the whole thing is that it was supposed to be under new management, but it's still the same people, so i can't understand why the lies...... There is a huge conflict of interest with CGS and LC, they can grade their own coins for sale and slab what and how they see fit and charge you the earth for that, just saying, i've personally nothing against your post or how you spend your money, i'm only interested in coins and that people don't get ripped off (by anyone) or screwed by buying fakes etc.... In 10 years that £99 fee would have bought you a nice coin, but by buying into their regime you'll be over a barrel because you'll have so many slabbed by then that'll you'll have to continue even if you don't want to Peace





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