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Hopefully you've all had a good Christmas, and as its now over I have a new type for the New Year . I'm sure most of you know that there are two types of 1905 penny listed, the F160 with the E in PENNY pointing to the gap between the teeth [ early type] , and the F161 with the rotated E pointing to the tooth [late type]. Well I noticed some time ago that some of the F160s have a small zero in the date, this by its self seemed of little importance , but I later realised that all of the pennies with the large zero , both F160s and F161s all have the straight bottoms to the Es in PENNY, whereas the small zero type, on all the examples I have managed to find , have the wavy bottomed Es. The straight and wavy Es were both in use from 1899 through to 1905, but only the straight type from then on. The small zero was used from 1901 to 1905, and after this the large zero from 1905 to 1908. This means that it is a transitional type reverse die used between the 1904 F159 and the 1905 F160. It also suggests that the differing bottoms to the Es, was a Font change, rather than a warn die creation. As if it was caused by wear, then you would expect to find at least some of the F160s and the F161s with the large zeros to have the wavy Es . Terry Top :- New type F160 Middle :- F160 Bottom :- F161

Going on my own was the best thing I ever did. 30 years ago the wife said to me you keep talking about it, but do nothing. I rose to the bait and never looked back. Can't beat working for yourself if you are willing to put the hours in at the drop of a hat and have an understanding partner.

I left in mid-September. I wonder if they've got through another auctioneer since then, or just failed to fill the vacancy. I do keep half an eye on their auctions just in case there's anything there I fancy, but nothing has changed much by the looks of things. A couple of fairly low key sellers with a few lots a week, some headline coins that never come anywhere near the reserve, some safe gold. Generally 15-25 lots a week. I found it a very odd place to work - they were far more interested in number of lots processed per hour than any semblance of genuine expert assessment, let alone building long lasting relationships with sellers, which is what they really needed. They never quite got the idea that if you're running a coin auction, it's the sellers who are putting the show on, not the auction house. Treat your stallholders well, because without them, you're just a half empty village hall on a wet Sunday afternoon I always got the feeling that they thought they knew best, and that the sellers were a bit of a nuisance. To be fair though, I've been self-employed since 2004, so I'd probably be a bit of a handful for any employer! Better off being a Lone Ranger now...

I know! That's why I resucitated this thread!

Looks like he is covering all bases. Description includes George VI and 1962 and a picture of 'Victoria'. What else could one want? On second thoughts, I wonder if it's the Indian with the golden horse cart?

another dangerous modern fake, 1933 penny

I've been scratching around in my boxes of pennies, to see if I could find the 1909 penny Mr Cole describes as, quote. ' The upper portion of the area between the plume and the back of Britannia's head is raised up from the flan'. I found this coin in the box, and I assume its the one he is talking about. it appears as a line which runs both below the helmet passing through the plume , and above the hooked shaped part of the helmet. It looks to be a die clash mark, as it follows the same line as the Ghosting of Edwards bust, which shows through on the reverse side of this coin. Terry

First post in this thread ........ Bought this Edward VII, 1902 low tide for my Edward VII type set.

Here you go gents. Happy reading.