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Hi. Has anyone recently seen the amount of fake or copy kew gardens are on sale on ebay just now? People are paying top dollar for these coins which can be picked up at any car boot sale for £1. Its against ebay policy to sell fakes so why is the place riddled with them amongst others!! Only yesterday i seen one being sold at auction, obvious fake, but wait for it...in some homemade slab!! Sitting at £81 when i seen it plus i noticed there had been 8 enquiries about it (obviously people telling him it was fake). Well, i seen red and fired in a bid of £110 to make sure i won the coin. I then never paid for it and politely informed the seller it was a fake and would like to cancel the sale. He did reluctantly cancel it saying he never had a clue it was fake...yeah right!! Maybe this is the way to beat the scammers if we could get more people on board.

Have now spent far too much time analysing specimens of the new pound coins, and have established the following varieties: There are, so far, 10 obverses, 6 edge types and 15 reverse types. So far the combinations of these obverses, edges and reverses is as follows: Obv 1 Edge 1 Rev A Obv 2 Edge 2 Rev B Obv 3 Edge 3 Rev C Obv 4 Edge 4 Rev D Obv 5 Edge 4 Rev E Obv 6 Edge 3 Rev F Obv 6 Edge 3 Rev G Obv 6 Edge 5 Rev H Obv 5 Edge 5 Rev A Obv 6 Edge 3 Rev H Obv 7 Edge 5 Rev J Obv 8 Edge 3 Rev K Obv 9 Edge 6 Rev L Obv 9 Edge 3 Rev M Obv 9 Edge 3 Rev N Obv 8 Edge 2 Rev O Obv 9 Edge 3 Rev G Obv 10 Edge 5 Rev G Obv 9 Edge 5 Rev C Obv 4 Edge 2 Rev H Obv 8 Edge 2 Rev B Obv 4 Edge 2 Rev A Obv 7 Edge 2 Rev B The key obverse indicators are the position of the truncation, the position of the top of the diadem and the gap between the 'T' and the inner ring. For the reverse, the indicators are the right hand leaf of the thistle, the part of the rose centre which is cut by the inner ring, the position of the 'D' relative to the inner ring and the position of the small DP, again in relation to the inner ring. As far as the edges go, the type is indicated by whether the milling below the shield is to the left or right and where it actually starts from. I also have one specimen where the JC on the obverse is 'squashed' into the truncation, instead of being separated from it. Not sure how that happened. In addition, two specimens have a missing lower leg of the 'P' in 'DP'. All this from a relatively small sample of 2016 coins, which tends to suggest that the Mint's standards have slipped. It may well be that each of the types I have analysed has other indicators that further differentiate them. To be honest my brain hurts (and my eyes) with all this checking and cross checking. If anyone is interetsed, or is doing any research themselves, I'm happy to provide details of the indicators for each type I have found.

I've often thought about that. "Sorry, it was a genuine bid but I've since been advised these are fake." What's the worst that could happen?

"Totally unique and possibly the only one of its kind? " http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Olympic-handover-2012-2-Two-Pound-Coin-Very-Rare-multiple-Royal-Mint-Errors-/182677811031?

Yes that was what omega_2 attitude was when i told him the shilling was fake....had the nerve to call me a bleedin conman!! As for those 2 hammered coins Stuart.....gosh do i need glasses!! Thanks for pointing these out to me. Learning every day!!

Hi again guys. Hope you don,t mind, but as mentioned before i am quite new to collecting hammered coins. This is the latest one i purchased which is a Charles 1st halfcrown. It weighs 15g and width is 33mm. It looks and feels the part but i would like a 2nd opinion on it please as i would hate it to be another fake as it was quite expensive. Thanks in advance. Kevin

yup the fakes are going for £40 and they are sold as copies, unreal

Spoken about this before and I've considered doing it myself but if it was done frequently you'd probably get a freeze on your account if someone lodged a complaint. I think its something we are all just going to have to accept is going on and ebay will not address it. I don't think there is any quick fix solution to this unfortunately without ebay support its pointless. I've stopped getting frustrated by it now. I just occasionally post the silly ones on here under eBays worst offerings. Just continue to report them , thats as much as we can do. Boycotting eBay will not work the numbers would be that small it would be like throwing a deckchair off the titanic.

I wasn't paying attention to what VickySilver said. This medal was struck in matt proof, the first year AFAIK that the treatment was used for a coronation. A bottle of Goddards Silver Dip should sort you out. A few seconds immersion then rinse with water, tamp dry. Repeat as necessary.