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...Though the liberal application of Brasso may have helped keep out the moisture.

Just like to send out condolences to David on the passing of his wife today.

How has the seller got positive feedback on those fakes he has already sold at 30x the price he obviously paid for them? If buyers are paying that sort of hard earned for quite obvious fakes it makes you wonder what their collections consist of and at what cost....

Yes. I doubt if it will do any good. A large response from members of this forum may produce a more positive result.

And old dies were used until they broke wherever possible, so at the year end, the date would be recut. The same would happen with the initial mark changeover

Couldn't that be a real pain (pane)?

Moonlighting as a glazier in case the other job doesn't work out.

Your welcome.

Hi ukstu, thank you for the information.

My friend just dropped the coin off and as soon as he placed it into my hands I knew exactly what had happened. It is a hollowed out two pence which someone has then filled with a resin or putty of sorts and then imprinted with the reverse of another two pence. Why they have done it is up for debate but my friend said it has been in his penny/coin Jar since the mid seventies. We come from an industrial town so maybe one of the workmen got bored one day and made it up on a lathe. So just a curio nothing else.

Looks to be a copper seam around the reverse on both. Machined? But can't explain the imagery of the reverse.

Hey Brian, Brockage should always be a mirrored image of whatever design is on the other side, from the pictures it looks like someone has stuck a genuine brockage onto a normal 2p. Can you see any seams anywhere? The different colouring on both sides also makes me think this. Is the reversed side in relief or is it just a trick of the photo? Should be incuse. Edit: Must be a trick, because all of a sudden I see it incuse now!

It also appears there are some "uniface" 1954 pennies at the British Museum - presumably reverse only and a blank obverse. The writer from Chard says he has actually seen and handled two himself. He also says that there are 6 in total, two with the BM and "others" with the Royal Mint. What he doesn't say is whether he saw a complete1954 penny at the BM.

I am sure there is a couple for everyone who may want something Jon Errors are not my thing really but a couple of good ones there for anyone that collects them

Derek is Derek Allen - posts on here as "Red Riley", although I've not seen him around for a very long time. The book is called "Grading British Coins" and is still available. If you look at the "e pub" notifications at the top of the page, there are a row of books. Derek's is the third one along. Failing that, it'll be on Amazon.

Precisely the reason why i don't collect modern coins. Thats hideous. Bolts of lightening shooting out her backside while she craps on wales. That small island appears to be a cloud of gas escaping from her backside which is shaped like a childs drawing of a cock and balls. Whats she reaching round for? Toilet paper ?

Any left?

Yes and they waste the rest

Yes, same seller who has the replica sixpence listed. I've reported both.

hes a FOOTBALLER they spend their money on pu**y and cars dont they?

A lesson in grading: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Half-Penny-Collectable-Coins-1806-1899-/232433769174?hash=item361e21dad6:g:72EAAOSwlhpZgqTo http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Half-Penny-Collectable-Coins-1718-1799-/232433716967?hash=item361e210ee7:g:fbMAAOSwaWNZgpom

Every sympathy David to you,your family and friends.

Sorry David. Sad news indeed. Thoughts and sympathies are with you.

Very sorry to hear. Condolences and best wishes to you and your family David.

Declan, over the years since I bought Derek's book, I've slowly come to the conclusion that he is slightly generous in his assessments. Still a good book, nonetheless. Almost, but not quite a bible, to be honest. I'd estimate your 05 to be VG, your 03 as fine but battered, and your 04 as a nice straight, problem free fine. Given the rarity of the 05 (and don't forget the 03 & 04 aren't exactly common, being both sub million mintages), you weren't done by paying what you did for the Edward VII date run. I agree with Peck's estimation of F/NVF for the LCA 05 halfcrown. I also agree that they are very conservative with their grading.

No eye deception, Peck. It's definitely another 1907 !

They're respectable - all Fine apart from the (common)1902 which looks nearer VF. The 1905 is NOT rare! Do my eyes deceive me, or is his 1909 another 1907?

Truly awful design. Looks like a woman doing a mad dance with a dust bin lid. This was designed by a first year university student. The new £1 coin was designed by a 15 year old boy. Invest in some professional designers please!

My latest Cinque Port (pronounced Sink Port apparently) Conder token, just Hastings needed to complete the main 5, arriving later this week but not as high a grade ... Question for other Conder token collectors on here - I use the following sellers to source my tokens, any others I should be looking at? ABC coins and tokens (David Stuart) Baldwins (of St James) John Newman (johnnyqc on eBay) Druids Revenge (eBay Seller)

What grades are the other coins in? If the 1905 is truly Fine, then I'd say you haven't done too bad. Without the dents that 1903 would probably fetch around £250 so you could say perhaps £100 or so with the knocks.

That coin had some life!

ok by me as well I love the slight double strike on ther reverse. woth around £80- £100 pity obverse not more clear

Here are some of my latest token buys. They're only low grades but they were cheap and I like them! A couple of things I've noticed with these: On the Hull Halfpenny, the horizontal line in the H of Hull continues through to the letter U, does anyone know why this is? I've noticed it is in Dalton and Hamers image of this reverse (this token is a DH20 I believe), yet they make no reference to it which I find odd as it stands out quite a bit! On the Manchester Halfpenny, it seems that the bottom of all three letter E's on the obverse is broken. Again, does anybody know why?

The shape around the arms of Castille reminds of silver pieces from the Segovia mint, but the shape should be raised unlike your 'coin'. In any event, there are no coins with the same design on both sides. That must be some sort of experiment

The relief looks a bit high for a struck piece. It could well be a cast.