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That's excellent stuff, Rob, I really don't understand why more people aren't interested in hammered coins, when they are truly steeped in the magic of history in a way that the 'modern' era just doesn't pull off. looks like you've grabbed yourself a pearler, Des! I love finding the 'unread' symbol on the hammered section of this forum.

This is far more interesting. At the bottom of the envelope it reads C/B 'Moon' Colln. C/B usually refers to Carlyon- Britton and Moon was a collection sold at Sotheby 7th May 1901. Fortunately I have P W P Carlyon-Britton's catalogue of the Moon sale which has a note, bought at the sale by Ready (a dealer) and the lot was purchased from Ready. So, you have made a good start with a provenance of J E Moon lot19, Sotheby 7/5/1901, this the last coin of seven in the lot (sold for 19 shillings). This passed to P W P Carlyon-Britton and the coin was sold in the second portion of his sale 20-24th November 1916, lot 1072, where it was the second coin of 3 (referenced to Moon). I don't have the buyer of this lot to hand, nor have I tried to go back into the 19th century, or forward from 1916. But it's a start! The Hildebrand 4016 reference suggests a timing in the first half of last century. This ref. was used in the 1916 catalogue. Anything written on the back of the ticket? I did wonder if the 76 in a circle was a Lingford reference, despite the ticket being square. The B is a good match as is the M of Moon, and he also used Rx ligated to signify the reverse. If it was ex Lingford, I would expect to see the acquisition details on the back of the ticket. There you go, I 've just added a few quid to its value.

Yesterday was a good day. A chance observation shows that the 'Cannonball' halfcrown (Allen obv. H) was recut to make obv. C. Behind the right hand horse's rump is a series of incuse lines above the tail where the previous die has not been completely erased. Below the horse is a circular area. Compare this to the left hand image of the excellent 'Cannonball' halfcrown from the National Museum of Wales collection, illustrated in Besly's book on the Civil War. The various features align, with the H obverse hoof showing as a weak line immediately below the flaw on obv. C. The R of CAROLVS looks to be in the same spot on both dies. However, the two obverses are not exactly to scale with one being a scan from a book and the other a photograph of an actual coin. Obviously it would mean that the two obverses are mutually exclusive in chronological terms. The question is, where were they struck? As the Cannonball was the result of obliterating the :SA: below mark, I think it likely that it was done to reflect a die movement from Shrewsbury to Worcester. The reverse die paired with the obverse C illustrated is Allen rev. 17, also known to be paired with obverse B which is the 'Tower' marked W below the horse die.

Bought this a few days ago just waiting for it to arrive through the post. Not listed as far as I am aware. Anyone have 1? 1864 Half Penny stop between H and A and it is a very prominent stop as well. Makes up for some indifferent buys lately

But die fill at the end of the three loop doesn't change the attribution. A cat has a tail. The Manx cat variety doesn't. A cat that has lost its tail in an accident does not become a Manx cat.

and .. (note to self, make em smaller..)

The additional wording is Long cross Type Br(ooke) 5 B(ritish) M(useum ) C(atalogue) IVa. S(eaby) Cat(alogue) 668 F something. What is the something? The rest makes sense, but is only general blurb. It also eliminates Lingford being responsible for the 76 in a circle because the Seaby catalogue numbers post-date his demise. Presumably the ticket is that of the Revd Campbell? If so, you could always add it to the ticket thread, as I have no info on what or when he collected, nor when the collection was sold. The missing link is the collector(s) between 1916 and 1944.

I received my Quadrum Intercept cases today and I'm very happy with the way they hold my sixpences. The fit is quite tight and I found it a little bit fiddly getting the coin in without touching the face. I ended up fitting them in mostly with my hands holding the rim and then making minor adjustments with a clean cotton bud to press on the edge of the coin faces to get everything neatly installed. Now that they're in, the coins are held very securely so it's safe to pick up the cases and admire my coins. Thanks to everyone in this thread for their advice!

Wow! Thanks Rob. It's amazing what you can deduce from an old ticket. It appears the coin has been in a few collections... according to the guy I bought it from the coin is ex Revd C Campbell, bt Seaby 1944. It great to be able to go back even further now and think it was part of a collection sold in 1901! I'm going to have to spend some time this weekend researching J E Moon & Carlyon-Britton. I nearly chucked that old ticket in the bin (as the annotations didn't mean anything to me). In the end I just entered the coin details on my spreadsheet and put the ticket in my draw. Thanks for the info on a possible mint location. It appears Wilton had a royal palace (now a car park) and all sorts. I'm going to dig out my map in the Summer and go and physically investigate. At the very least, it will be fun spending the day exploring, and viewing Wilton House (where Wilton Abbey once stood).

You need something that will allow you to use layers, so that you can set the opacity of the top layer such that it will show through the detail of the base layer. Paint shop pro will but that will cost you for the privilege. GIMP is free and is fully featured, so if you only want to play, this is probably the best freebie going. It also seems to be very well documented. https://www.gimp.org/downloads/

Pete sent me the following picture which nicely illustrates the source of the "crow's foot". It's interesting that, although the crow's foot is always in the same place, it's caused by a clash with another coin's reverse at an angle of around 30 degrees whereas I would have expected the reverse to be vertical.

Just had a look at the LCA coins, that one does look dubious compared to the rest, but then look at the proportions of the 6 compared to Richards photo, I think it is a case of a poor resolution image and a photographically squashed exergue . As it is LCA I am sure it is OK in the hand, though I don’t remember if I looked at it at the auction. So I am back-tracking on this one, which goes to show how difficult to judge from poor quality photos, I have been caught out before on the bay, though for less than a tenner. The Ebay coin above though is as Rob says simply die wear or fill taking away the tail of the 3. Jerry

It looks like clashed dies given it has the same folds as the dress. Someone might pay extra for it, but there's no logical reason to do so

The article was written in 1948, so Brooke's classification from 1932 applies. At the time it wasn't appreciated that there had been several issues of small cross, and variations on a theme for hand could be easily explained as parochial differences. As for where the mint would be, I would have thought somewhere close to the present centre of Wilton as you have all the ingredients for an ancient settlement with North, South and West Streets, plus Minster St. The roads to Wilton would most likely be closely aligned to the old Roman roads, so the junction where that takes a dogleg and heads north west up the Wylye valley and the river goes southwest to Shaftesbury would be a good starting point as the centre of Wilton. The old road probably followed the river in the Shaftesbury direction, which in turn may have changed course over the years. Another option would be a close proximity to the local church. I assume that Wilton was quite important in its own right at the time given it has its own mint despite being only 3 miles or so from Salisbury. Does Minster St refer to an old religious establishment? I can't find anything googling Wilton Minster. In all probability it will be close to water, particularly a river crossing and a Roman road to convey travellers to the settlement.

I will hide under my rock (peter is the rock) I've never sent diddly to a TPG who know much less than I do...unbelievable why or how they exist....People need a pat on the back I suppose.I won't ever entertain these shysters...much rather put a coin up on Predecimal when at least you have some sharp eyed knowledge.Back to my chow main had a bit of a bonus this afternoon...the Gees came in I'm not just a coinie.