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Good job I scrolled down. I was about to ask if it was used in conjunction with a Roman catapult.

The point I am making is that so many things are described as UNC and people will bid on them because they are so described. If you don't put unc in the title virtually nobody will look at it, but the truth is that UNC coins make up a tiny fraction of one percent of the total population. Some are aware of this but many aren't. This thread exists in large part because of delusional sellers and buyers alike. It is like 'rare' on ebay. About 8 or 10 years ago in this thread I took the first 25 'rare' coins and separated out the rarities. There was a 1934 halfcrown, which is scarce in high grade, and an 1853/2 halfpenny which is at least verging on rare. The rest were 1967 penny type material. Descriptions are best ignored. The volume of listings is such that I believe it has conditioned people to expect most things to cost 99p or not much above because there are too few eyeballs for widespread competitive bidding. I usually list some piece of junk that has a chance of selling even at a quid, just to get a card out and advertise the site and so open eyes to the fact that there is a world outside ebay. I would also like to add that it is not a very successful method, but hope springs eternal. Ebay is just another place to buy, not the only place. Most dealers do not make 50% + VAT. 20% is closer to the mark for a typical sale, (and the VAT is applied to the margin, not the full price), though clearly some things slip under the radar and are acquired cheaply. Whether you buy on ebay or from a dealer, you will have researched the coin just in establishing what you want. Investing is buying cheap and selling dear, just as it is for everything else.

OK, we probably all agree that a huge % of ebay is: 1) Sh**e 2) More sh**e, misdescribed 3) More Sh**e, knowingly misdescribed 4) Misdescribed through lack of knowlwedge 5) Misdescribed because "I Googled it and it's worf faaasands" At weekends, with a drink in my hand, I frequently put a snipe at "asking price" on 2) & 4). If I don't win, no sweat. But when I win, it keeps me in good brandy.

It's ok. I have one of yours. It was made here though.

Quite. Send them back home please Voynov!

Should have scratched them with the ViGtoria

When it comes to ebay its a case of the good, the bad and the darned right ugly. A bit of a minefield out there as i,ve found to my cost. Even buying from reputable dealers like DNW auctions, when you receive the coins, they are nothing like what they were in the pictures as they have all been photoshopped to a uniform colour, but who is going to complain to a large company like that. I see a few sellers on ebay creeping in with that style of listing as well and i,m surprised they have 100% feedback. I,ve purchased one or two coins like this and quite frankly they,ve just been tarted up. I just avoid these coins now.

Hat Off always good to find something you have been looking for

CLOSED......Sourced one on eBay. ?

Ahh well spotted Craigy. 23.I Gram

I enjoy a bit of ebay buying, although I do treat it with the contempt it deserves, trying to hit things with low "pot-shot" bids to see if I can bag an absolute bargain.

Yes, I tend to agree with you Newhart as even in the presence of plenty of dross, there are some very nice coins occasionally on sale there. I really have gotten some unbelievable coins on the 'bay, even done not so well on a few and ducked the junque (LOL).

I have now added this coin to my website - I hope this is OK with you Voynov ?

yes mate J.E.B> on truncation they always sell well in any grade

Love this one. I could make a fortune https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-ANACS-1967-MS-66-RED-GREAT-BRITAIN-HALF-PENNY-1-2P-TOP-POP-POP-OF-2/362123214362?epid=102090324

Probably >10. Five of whatever the total number in existence is, can be seen here, on Richard's rarest penny site. Yours isn't amongst them. So that makes a minimum of 6.

I am aware of five, including yours. I dare say there are a few more out there, but it remains an excessively rare coin. You might get a better return from a specialist auction than Ebay despite the difference in sellers premium. The LCA coin you reference gives you a rough idea of the value, though the provenance of that coin, being I think the Laurie Bamford example, might have helped. As always, the final price is governed by demand. Jerry

This has to be contender for worse coin description ever https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NGC-PF64-RB-1937-GREAT-BRITAIN-PENNY-UK-1P-PROOF/142546672115

It's easier to throw them away. Last year I listed nearly 2kg of pennies with an 1871 and a few more 1860s deliberately placed on top - which didn't sell, probably because I started it at a tenner and not the obligatory 99p. Took the 1871 out and it sold for over a tenner as a stand alone listing. Took the rest down to the scrapper when I next passed him. Just over 35kg of bronze pennies and halfpennies have gone that way in the past year because it isn't worth the hassle of listing (& relisting). I'd lose the will to live if ebay was the only outlet.

Silly. It's all that is wrong with eBay, or at least the people who buy there. Rhetorical question, but how can some thing blatantly not as described reach £12.50, when a halfcrown in the same grade sells for melt, and a couple of other things sell for a third of melt? Answer, on a rare foray onto ebay via the wife's account, they weren't mis-described. The other things that didn't sell for below melt will go in the pot tomorrow. There has to be too much material listed to achieve a reasonable price by listing as an auction.

Must be a relative http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1914-GEORGE-V-SILVER-FLORIN-UNC-SPINK-S4012-ESC-933-NICE-COIN-AND-RARE/352174951686

He could do with buying Chris’s new book, for a bit of practice The Coin Colouring Book