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Just putting this coin in the correct section as it is a lovely hammered coin. The reverse die is the same as number 200 in the famous Schneider collection but the obverse has the mint mark in a different place, maybe an over mark.

Figures for all the threepences can be found in my book 'The Galata Guide to ......Threepenny pieces 1551 - 1663' available from Galata coins (Shameless plug)

TBH, as long as the person concerned isn't causing financial grief to themselves or their family, it doesn't really matter how much is paid for something. Clearly, if a purchaser is pleased with the acquisition then that should be a box ticked. After all, this country is full of houses with a couple cars on the front pavement that have cost something approaching the market value of the house. Apparent frittering of hard earned wealth isn't the prerogative of buyers at coin auctions - some people waste their money when there is no requirement for an instantaneous decision. The logical alternative would be paying an exact amount for a coin that has been correctly assessed with regards to condition, i.e. graded, and then a fixed price applied and paid............... hang on a minute. We all find it easy to reference another person's in terms of ourselves, but we aren't the person spending the money. We've all bid a little bit more at some time or other.

It's crown over bell both sides.

Its Friday and its a break from the thirsty job of hammering ? What a job he's got. Living the dream! ?

hammered!!!!

Interesting sale today. Russian buyer for delivery to Omsk. Uses a UK Paypal a/c in someone else's name. Can't get a response from the p/pal a/c holder so I reluctantly try to sort it out through p/pal customer service. India has a wealth of people speaking good, comprehensible English. The one I had must be the daughter of the call centre boss. 50 times round the same few phrases with no information being imparted. Can't help me, can't inform the account holder for security reasons? So if you live in Newport Gwent and you haven't bought an £80 jeton, have a look at your account. You may just find out that you have. In fact I've put the transaction on hold until further notice.

Have you received it, how much did you pay for customs?

I bought a BRESSER with 5 year warranty £48 on ebay. It works fine on the lowest 20X but the magnification is too high for a lot of coin work. I don't think we need anything over 25 X . I think it would be good if someone came up with a software package that would compare coins with a view to spotting differences. Anyone know of something like that?

hi not really suitable die cutting in the dark, figures for 3ds obverse dies 11, reverse dies 15 ( numbers found and published) 3 different punches for 9/6 7 dies use the broken 9/6. 32 individual coins seen

Its strange stu how all the gold I have found has come out in lovely condition, just a George IIII Sovereign I had that maybe be me or the plough had dinked it.

Yup that is my gut feeling. Some of these repro's to the untrained eye look very convincing . Already seen one guy earn £7k+ off of fake kew's.

Talking of newbie collectors.... What I do find slightly concerning is the increasing number of reproduction bun pennies, of all different dates, including 1869 and 1875H, the real ones of which are rare. They all look uncirculated, although often with a horrible rainbow toning, and they are obviously fake, which anyone with experience can tell at a glance. Although they are flagged up as "reproduction gap fillers" and the like, what worries me is that eventually someone is going to try passing some off as real, which newbie collectors could fall for, believing thy are getting a bargain.

He did say he was in the pub! Edit: would still be interested in the 3d numbers though, I'm guessing there'll be dozens?

Hi Pete, 1897 safely arrived, nice coin, like it a lot and thank you for the added extra. A lovely surprise but now you are tempting me towards the Dark Side of note collecting. Ian

I love a book.I put my nose down and another evening passes by.

Sweden again - 4 daler 1734, PM#74. 3122g.

The mint is making profit on the back of collectors, be they casual or numismatist. Westminster is making profit on the back of almost entirely casual collectors with little numismatic knowledge. There will always be profit from the end user otherwise nobody would be in business. Everybody in the chain takes a bit of profit, but by and large they are an essential part of the distribution network, so can't be dispensed with selling only from the manufacturer. The internet will have some effect on that, hence the downward pressure on prices for many consumables. Do I think RM products are overpriced? Yes, but no more so than the latest fashion accessory or the latest Apple product, or the top end large cars that half this country seems obsessed with driving. Those are all incredibly profitable for the people who make them and their distributors.