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Mike & Pete, I can't tell you the exact amount, but it was well over $10,000 US$. I caused a lot of excitement on the Forum when I put a picture of it on the Thread. I was getting e-mails and calls from most of the well known penny guys in the UK. I purchased it from a High End Collector, in Florida, who had owned it for many years. I delivered it, in person, at Notting Hill, in London, since I was vacationing, at the time, in Great Britain. There are 5 or 6 of these Narrow Date known (actually) at this time, with some collectors having multiples. This is a good test for Zooy, as the listed estimates for really rare coins, are somewhat low, in most cases, compared to actual sale prices. I wish I still had it!

You mean this Mike? I sold this one about 5 years ago.

What I can see there Christie, amounts to silver value only. Be aware that pre-1947 is 50% silver, whereas pre-1920 it's full sterling silver. Get what you can for them, from anyone who buys coins like that for their silver content.

a few weeks back i emailed the Royal mint museum in regards to the 1953 VIP proof crown, mine ticks all the boxes in the books but as the debates have shown its a contentious issue, this was the museums reply, have replied and am awaiting my next reply, Dear Mr Cook I am very sorry for the delay in response to your enquiry, dated 4 August. Frosting is a variable feature of the 1953 proofs. We cannot comment further without seeing the coin you have, but even then it is extremely difficult to identify the so called VIP finish referred to by coin dealers. With this in mind, it may be that any photographic examples we could supply will show a variation of frosting to the type that your pieces display. Yours sincerely

More than I anticipated, Bob. But I should already have known that such a coin with its attendant extreme rarity would command a very high price.

Very nice - the sort of song I like. I can hear a touch of the early Marianne Fathfull.

No chance of that happening I suspect. I have no 'ins' to the music industry, no direct line to Simon Cowell or Kylie, so I guess my talents are destined to remain hidden. To be honest, I only do this because I find it interesting, really relaxing and incredibly satisfying when things slot into place, and something fairly indifferent suddenly sparks into life. Sometimes its as simple as taking a chord sequence and shifting it by one beat, and things change dramatically. A bit like finding the coin you've been looking for for years.

My coin sale was a private sale, without the frenzy usually associated with a auction. I would assume the price at auction would be higher. However I did save the auction fee.

Wow very nice. Yeah agreed the really rare issues will always surpass book values. Purely the fact they are so rare and demand outweighs supply for all collectors and I would imagine 98% do not have that variety in their collection. As was the case when we saw record figures for the 1863 Narrow 3 and the 1863 die number 5. I wonder what it would sell for today if it came up at auction?

Yes, but to state the obvious, this is an example of a different reverse variety rather than a variation of date spacing.

I bet most would give their eye teeth to get hold of an 1877 narrow date.......

As close as I can find so far, legend on reverse of mine I believe will say HOLLHO then maybe a mint mark of some kind., then P or T obverse is slightly different as well, no small cross before HOLLANDIE on this coin I'm still searching, lol never looked at so many coins from Holland.

John short cross penny Ilger London Class 5c