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But you, or someone else has to write the book first. The listed dot die is not necessarily rarer than others, just that it was listed in the first place. Someone with a year or two on their hands to carry out a census is required to prove it one way or the other I personally see no difference between the two dots, considering them equally irrelevant unless someone can prove that they constitute a deliberate design feature - but that's just my take of how to define a variety.

There is an argument for paying besieged troops as a means of stopping them mutinying. Buying loyalty is as old as history itself. However, the number of defenders dictates that you wouldn't need too many dies, let alone denominations. All you need is a supply of plate with a few die pairs. There are 28 discrete varieties listed in Spink for Scarborough across 23 denominations (not including the 1s9d). The average civil war garrison was maybe 100-150 strong? The same goes for Bridgnorth. 120 defenders, yet 30 dies associated with 'B' mint currency and all of a month to cut and use them.

It's a penny with a dot between the O and the N due to a small piece of metal flaking off the die compared to a penny with a dot between the O and the N due to a small piece of metal flaking off the die. One sells for a lot of money whilst the other sells for rummage bin price. Vive la difference. I understand why one sells for lots of money, because it is listed in a reference book with the dot location clearly defined and collectors are obsessed with chasing numbers. What I don't understand is why it made it as a variety in the first place. Surely the only basis for entry would be a design difference, whether deliberate or as an engraving error? However, one dot should be as good as another if someone wants to write the reference book.You will get more plaudits than complaints for doing so, and the collecting world will find another excuse to spend money.

This is an ongoing debate. Personally, I've never seen anything that suggests to me that they are genuine, in fact exactly the opposite. Leaving aside this one, In the case of the two towers pieces, I find it inconceivable that they would make a series in penny increments all the way from 6d to 1s4d plus the higher values. All that would be required would be to get approximately similar pieces of plate, weigh them, and stamp the value. It's not rocket science. You get an example or two of each denomination - which doesn't make sense. Although the denominations seen on the castle and gateway types are more sensible, I also struggle somewhat from a perspective view, and think the castle may be viewed looking at the inside wall. It is also important in my view that Cholmley is reported as producing coins to pay the troops, but no mention is made in connection with this of the quantity of CARA farthings found at the bottom of the castle well (cf. Peck p.56). Although there are pros and cons for them being contemporary with the siege, not least the fact that they constitute the early issues of copper farthings. When one considers the designs employed on some of the provincial civil war silver, they clearly hark back to the early part of Charles' reign, so it would be wrong to exclude the CARAs as possibly being made at Scarborough. Although some of these pieces were in collections going back to the end of the 17th century, that still doesn't place them as being contemporary with the siege. I think it is significant that other siege pieces such as Newark and Carlisle were struck in towns, not just within a castle. I had a discussion with kal about 3 and a half years ago on this topic. I laid my views out in a note, the contents of which are attached. I haven't changed my view on this since then. I'm sure kal will come back on this given his interest in the subject. 140731-Kal on predecimal discussion.docx

Have it regraded by NNC and you can get it regraded MS71. If you genuinely think it would make a 65 then send it in to NGC or PCGS and see if you are right. There are a number of dealers who frequent this forum, none of which gatecrash the forum owner's business. Given it is the season of goodwill to all men - have a thought for others instead of peddling NNC's lumps of wishful thinking. Merry Christmas.

There are some interesting posts over the past few days in the "Ebay's Worst Offerings" thread concerning Catawiki coin auctions that should be read by all that might consider bidding in those auctions.

Yes Happy New Year everyone ! 2018 might be the year I finally get a camera as I suspect taking photo's of coins is an interesting hobby in itself ! My work is bringing in (through enterprise bargaining) a policy where you can cash out your annual and long service leave so I will force myself to spend some of that on a camera set up. Get ready for some shocking pics of coins ha haha. Cheers Garrett

I cannot believe they let that go through even describing the kings likeness lmfao. That trust-pilot rating is soon to plummet mark my words.

That's a laughably bad fake 1820 halfcrown.

Goodness, that would turn in all on it’s head. I’m guessing there are too many people holding very expensive Scarborough coins to ever let that be a truth?

Penny Acquisition of the year for me , just in time for Christmas. f164a Terry