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I don't know what has happened to it since I saw it and can only go on what I'm told. Maybe it has been looked at and condemned and maybe not. The person concerned wasn't short of a bob or two, nor do they collect anything in depth, so it would fit into a random selection quite easily. Maybe they kept it and wanted to stay below the radar. Maybe they sold it. Who knows? We all know there are many things that specialist collectors would like to know exist, but the knowledge is kept close to the owner's chest for whatever reason.

Well worth it. I have used mine over and over again.

there are some subtle differences between the standard 3 d's and the maundy ones that look alike in Edward VII's reign and before, angle's of the rim etc, a good book to buy is silver pennies and linen towels by Brian Robinson, goes into great detail about issues and dies telling proofs from standard etc, gone up a bit in price now, i got it when it was first issued, great book though isbn 9780907605355

It was quoted that his were made of nickel or German silver . from the article . The mention of machinery (rather than moulds) points to the likelihood that the method of manufacture was that used in another enterprise of the same James Steele, with Robert Ramsay, from 1927 to 1930—when they were detected through the superabundance of coins bearing the same date. Halfcrowns dated 1920 and 1921 were then made from nickel 'or German silver'; the charge was of having a puncheon, four dies, an electrotyping machine, a rolling machine, an edging machine, a charcoal stove, an annealing box, electro-plating tanks, frames, an hydraulic press, and an ejecting machine . . . 'These misdirected geniuses had perfected what was virtually a miniature Scottish Mint'.7 In the early nineteen-sixties this remained the only successful case in which counterfeiters had struck pressed sheet metal in the same manner as the Royal Mint.

Two undoubtedly currency 1853 groats coming up in next DNW sale on 14th June ! Both have the "curly" 5 and the larger 3.

I do not post in here often but here are a couple of newbies from @PWA 1967 I am not happy with my pictures, they look far better in hand.

Hi, just wanted a few comments on this. I've been studying and collecting silver George V coinage extensively for a few years now and from my observations, it appears that the introduction of the modified effigy was staggered starting with the threepence and finishing with the halfcrown. The 2nd head currency 3p is quite rare (extremely in high grades) with the modified 3rd head much more common. Conversely, the 2nd head halfcrown seems to be more common than the modified head halfcrown of the same year. I've had it on good authority from someone who collects sixpences that he sees several modified heads to every one old head 1926 which seems to fit. Any thoughts? I'm curious why ESC specifically comments and states the old head halfcrown is rarer as I would be surprised if that is the case.

This is a much more complex subject than it first appears. As far as official issues are concerned, it's not the 3d but the halfpenny (1925) where the ME begins, and the last denomination to introduce it was the 1927 proof florin. However, the matter is complicated by pennies (as usual!). There is an extremely rare - possibly unique - 1922 penny with the modified effigy and the rare experimental reverse (so-called "1927 type", though it isn't). My own thesis, developed in an article for Coin News, is that this doesn't date from 1922 but is an experimental piece quite possibly struck in 1925 - when no pennies were scheduled - using the new obverse and a leftover experimental 1922 reverse die (which was effectively introduced for each bronze denomination when the ME came in, with the exception of the 1926ME penny, which I suggest was an unplanned emergency issue). The relative rarity of the halfcrown types has long switched back and forth; my opinion is also that the ME is scarcer, but not by a long way.

Not anysort of expert on these but looks gen - if its a fake its a really good one

Whilst I'd already got a Freeman 20, the one I've just managed to get is a full grade higher, about NVF. I don't think it's worthy of the title "penny acquisition of the week", it is nonetheless an acquisition, and it is somewhat scarce, so I'm quite pleased.

I think it's maybe the first gold victorian sixpence i've seen. It has H35 and 500 scratched in the OBV just to the right of the last A in VICTORIA

Yes, I should have remembered that. Here is the extract:-

I was told by a predecimal guru that I should move my recent posting to this topic. So here goes: I recently made some Victorian bronze acquisitions to my collection: Victorian pennies of 1867, 1882-H, and 1885.

I can imagine a scenario during the times that the VIGTORIA's were circulating where the overwhelming majority of people would barely glance at them, much as with today's circulating coins. Maybe the odd person, idly musing, noticed it, thought it was an error, and then thought no more about it. It's only since demonetisation (sp), mass melting down of the worn out residue, and increased collector awareness, that we've started to look out for these things. I agree with you, Matt, that quite a few more will emerge in the near future - just as happened with 1863 die No under date.

I do love the Davies book, I have to say!

It's French not Latin .....

Don't know if this one is high enough to qualify?

Looks like a case of mismatched photos. The obverse is from the unmistakable 1935 "Rocking Horse" Crown.

have emailed the guy as he has excellent feedback and may have just mixed his photos up..

Just bought an interesting coin - matt proof 1953 penny but struck with the circulation obverse die (121 beads; A of ELIZABETH to bead) rather than the proof die (120 beads; A of ELIZABETH to gap). I suppose it's logical that, if they were struck for photographic purposes, they would strike examples of both circulation and proof coins in a matt finish.

Anybody going for the Freeman 23 at the next LCA? - can be seen here 11.32g toned UNC. The Freeman 23 is an 1861, 4 + D, on a heavy flan, average weight 11.35g, compared to a general average of 9.45g. Thickness 2mm, compared to a general average of 1.5mm. Just looking in Gouby, it appears that (as of 2009, at any rate) 7 were known. Three of those are in the British Museum, and the remaining four in private hands. Of course, the price has gone up over the years. This time, LCA are looking for bids in the £5k to £6k parameter. The last one they sold in December 2012, went for £5,500 - which see. It'll be very interesting to see what this one fetches. Actually it appears to be the same specimen. Other sales listed by Gouby are as follows:- Christies - 23rd October 1984 (Freeman) EF 11.1g - £237.00 Spink -17th June 1987 (Norweb) pAS 11.3g - £648.00 Spink - 23rd July 2003 (Adams) pAS toned - £1117.00 (weight not given) DNW - 20th June 2006 (Bamford) AU 11.32g - £1941.00 MR - December 2007 list pAS 11.02G - £1850.00 So an increase of 172% between 1987 and 2003, and an increase of approximately 290% between 2006/07 and 2012. Clearly LCA are expecting the same ballpark bids this time as in 2012. We will see. Given their condition, it's pretty obvious that none of these specimens have seen any circulation.

It wasn't a Coin Monthly. It was Coins, January 1971, previously Coins and Medals.

Jan 1971. 15p

Just me You MUST write this information up. I believe Rob is working on a new ESC and this kind of info would be the icing on the cake.