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Hi, I wonder if anyone can help with the identification of this Celtic Uniface Gold Stater please?

I agree. In the absence of that, it would have only achieved a tiny fraction of the 5 figure sum, at auction. As you say "VIP" really only applies to those years where there is not general proof issue, and the term now often seems to be a bit of a con.

One is lit from below, the other from above. Same coin IMHO.

are we having the same with this penny, struck in silver to bu standard according to the royal mint when i asked what strike it was, , looks cameo proof to me ???

my take away from all this is it there is 0 difference between vip and non vip from standard standard proof years. only worth the splooge for non standard dates. I personally like the 1928-1936 date range HC and sixpence proofs and considered buying one in the past but IMO they fall in the same catagory s the above most the time, rarely cameo, can be easily reproduced in quality with standard strike and the depth of fields/ sharpness of strike is not far off a standard strike. Considering the price difference between a standard strike 1928 HC amazing quality £45-60 or a mediocre "proof"(some are also questionable) for £1200 i chose multiple high grade standard strikes. Bare this all in mind that i love buying proof coins too, nothing beats the level of quality a proof provides but when standard strike/normal proof is indistinguishable from the VIP version then personally I call it highly justified to avoid as it just doesn't make sense

Don't forget the Mint Your Own 2018 Isaac and the 2 Paddington Bears as well

And even 'VIP' years aren't necessarily frosted. e.g. http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=156&searchlot=2361&searchtype=2 compared to the 'silver' of the same year, which bear in mind was done on a scanner, so in reality heavily frosted

No need for a wish list. There's one here. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ancient-British-Coins-Elizabeth-Cottam/dp/095668890X or here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ancient-British-Coins-Chris-Rudd-Free-UK-P-P-/152446965452

Hi Stuart, just looked in Chris Rudd’s ABC book ( Ancient British Coins) and I believe it’s a Selsey Uniface ( ABC 488) of the Regini and Attrebates. Spink 39. Richard

Yes I made confusion ...Perfect !! Thanks a lot

Cheers.....I was thinking S39, not a million miles away Thanks for looking.

"Six month gape" - wow, that's a long time to spend gazing on even the loveliest coin!

You'd be best consulting a specialist work - the nearest I can find in Spink is S37, Savernake Forest type (though yours is not exactly like their illustration - I don't know how relevant that is.)

i do like the cameo George VI, is my favorite bust of all and i believe its been called the most technically perfect bust, anyway picked this little beauty up, couple of very light hairlines in front of the forehead but that reflects the grade,

Think it's a sixpence as shilling doesn't have the Rose behind the bust. Woolpack mintmark. Sixth issue. Bust 6C. Spink 2578B

I have now. Still no 2016 though.

Personally I find transfers/paint/artificial colour on coins really really hateful. I'd buy these literally for any profit margin to be had short term from the interweb hype.