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If the buyer knows what they are looking at at all. I suspect many of these dodgy sellers get away with it most of the time because of the inexperience of the buyers.

Fr24 4+F 1861E F+f OBVERSE Type 1 Three leaves in first row of laurel. Linear circle weak but continuous above legend “VICTORIA”. Type 2 Two leaves in first row of laurel, upper leaf missing or very weak. Linear circle mostly absent above legend “VICTORIA”. REVERSE Type 1 Last numeral “1” in date noticeably spaced wide from “6”, slightly low and tilting clockwise approximately 15 degree’s. Linear circle in exergue continuous. Small trace of extra tail, with tip cut off, on date numeral “6” one noted with die crack from tooth between “8” and “6” of date, running vertical towards breastplate. Type 2 Last numeral “1” in date spaced slightly wide, very low and tilting approximately 20 degree’s Clockwise, almost in contact with linear circle. Trace of extra tail to date numeral “6”

Two 1917 halfcrowns I have. The top one is a NGC MS 62 while the other is an ungraded coin I brought from Michael Coins before it closed when I was in London a few years ago. I think the ungraded example is a better coin than the NGC graded one and welcome any comments as I am trying to improve my grading skills. The top coin is the NGC MS 62 graded coin while the bottom coin is the ungraded coin brought from Michael Coins. Thanking you in advance for any replies

Modern replica. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-Choice-George-III-Cartwheel-Penny-Coin/192520289731?hash=item2cd31a7dc3:g:Gj0AAOSw5m1a3ndd Please report. Jerry

Actually I'm thinking more and more that they do !

Yes, the one on Richard's site as his example 9, also with a different date width to the usual F24's. Maybe we need to ask Bernie how many F24 die pairings!

Actually, although the "letters" are in a different place from Obverse F (Freeman 4), they are about the same size and spacing.

Yes, I'll vote for the second as well - the first looks to have the lustre "washed out" by dipping perhaps overzealously. This with the caveat that it is hard to picture slabbed coins. I have an absolutely gorgeous NGC64+ 1907 half crown and can not for the life of me get a decent picture in slab.

As soon as they're seen they either get "collected" or ebayed, either way they ain't going back into circulation.

I have been shown a few in hand by ardent young collectors. All so far have come through contacts at the local post offices. I spoke to the guy in my local PO and he confirmed they had received one bag of them. When I asked if he had any left he went a bit cagey - I suspect he took the lot himself and sold them on...

I bought one of Rob's vacant cabinets.Probably will fill with decimals.Send me a crate of Newqy Brown so I can Pizz my B&B bed...a bit embarrassing as I was a consultant costing £1K a day...I'm now freelance and cheaper and don't pizz beds...I only work when I want to.Civils/Building claims I'm your man....40 yrs a QS. i just need a Yammy R1 in the garage the Boxter has been sorted....yep I'm widowed and growing potatoes in the front garden...daughters hate it but want to keep their inheritance..

Have a look on YouTube for his Letterman interviews.

I think it's just a byproduct of a quite appalling photograph. Double image, blur - if you're really interested ask the seller for a decent picture.

Considering how much I'd had to drink before I wrote that, it came out remarkably comprehensible.