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Very true. But never forget, "You're born with nothing, so if you die in debt, you've made a profit."

So .... I bid on four lots and won three of them all well under my maximum bid: 1. 1904, Threepence, Large Ball on 3, NGC graded MS66. A nice addition to my Edward VII type set. 2. 1930 sixpence in an LCGS holder and graded LCGS 88. 3. 1697 sixpence. Third Bust, Later Harp, Large Crowns, in an NGC holder and graded NGC MS62. I already have a couple of these but this is an upgrade. While I was a little bit disappointed that this sale didn't have any of my 'must have' coins, still nice to get these ones.

Took a punt thought I saw something and it turned out to be a new variety type on this coin series. 1835 farthing GRBATIA R/B error nice sound to it almost Jamaican-esq GRBATIA Man

Think its all about if we want something we buy it and if we are happy it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks. There is no need for anyone to defend what they have bought (apart from to the wife) its upto them. I have paid more for things i want ,not just coins but allsorts of daft things and buy them for ME. We are collectors so fill gaps ,some gaps are worth more to us than someone else. Well bought Jaggy ....If your happy thats all that matters

I believe it's obverse 15 - Malcolm Lewendon's CD of images says obverse 14 has 152 rim denticles and obverse 15 has 149 rim denticles. I've left myself a note that says on obverse 14 the second : of D:G: points between rim denticles while on obverse 15 the second : of D:G: points at a rim denticle.

Nice rationale train there Jag.....I use similar myself, even as excuses to buy further coins to "cost average" downward. These are words of collectors, to be sure...BTW, the 48/7 went "63" at NGC.

Couldn't determine by the bridge of the nose (scratch) so I went by the bulging forehead and shorter thicker nape hair.

For me, it's 15 but see what others say.

Hi Zoo, There are two sub types of F17 6+D and the 6+D* this may be another slight variation. Below D* has a curved rock up under the shield . D has just sea. See Richards Site Site. https://englishpennies.wordpress.com/victoria-bronze/

Bit of an anomaly these are both reverse D coins I snapped together this morning there seems to be a difference in the design of the helmet. the top part one has a convex curve to the peak and the other a concave curve making one much more rounded?

But bear in mind - there is a range of scarcity of BU George VI brass 3d's that exceeds most other denominations. Viz.: Very rare - 1946 and 1949 Rare - 1951 Very scarce - 1950 Scarce - 1939 and 1948 Not so easy to find - 1945 Slightly easier to find - 1938, 1940, 1952 Normal - 1941 Easy - 1937, 1942, 1943, 1944 So a BU 1939 is worth paying a reasonable sum for. Coins that are ABU or GEF are generally quite a lot easier to find, this scale refers to genuine BU only. You have nicely summed up George VI brass threepence collecting in one paragraph. As for Elizabeth II, just to complete the list, I've added the 1953 type 2 obverse and the standard 1958 which seem to be scarcer in true BU than their mintage numbers would suggest. Perhaps the availability of the 'plastic set' gave a false impression that BU specimens of the '53 were fairly common and hence were not worth hoarding. But of course it was only the type 1 that came with the sets. As for the 1958, these seem to be weirdly scarce in true BU despite a mintage of over 20 million! My only guess is that they were issued in numbers sufficiently high as not to be perceived as worth collecting, only to then fall victim to the big meltdown after decimalisation. Very rare - 1946 and 1949 Rare - 1951 Very scarce - 1950 Scarce - 1939, 1948 and 1953 type 2 obv. Not so easy to find - 1945 and 1958 Slightly easier to find - 1938, 1940, 1952 Normal - 1941 Easy - 1937, 1942, 1943, 1944 The 1958 3d is one of those weird inexplicable cases - it was actually identified as a scarcity in BU before decimalisation, as was the 1946 halfpenny, and other strange items like the 1957S shilling (the 1957E is really common in UNC) and the 1958E shilling. Not forgetting the 1958 sixpence and who knows how many others too. I guess we may never know why some dates are scarcer than others - it may be a combination of factors, e.g. time of year issued, whether any were held back, demand for certain denominations being greater at some times, a shortage in one denomination causing lower denominations to circulate more, the hoarding of certain dates more than others for different reasons... One thing's for sure, the great meltdown should have evened out those weird discrepancies more than actually happened - there's a kind of inertia to price guides that is resistant to reality at times. Interesting that the 1958 3d and the 1958 sixpence were identified as scarce in BU even whilst they were still currency. I really wouldn't have guessed that. If anyone who worked at the Royal Mint between 1957 and 1959 ever comes across this discussion it would be very interesting if they would share their insights into the mystery. I wonder if large quantities of certain coins were shipped out to colonies that then become independent in the late '50s to mid '60s and whether, in some way, this had an effect on subsequent scarcity. I personally have always found it slightly remarkable that collectors resisted the temptation to spend their BU coins. I mean, pre-credit cards if you were out of cash then your nice shiny 1958 threepence that you'd stashed away would suddenly seem like an expendable luxury!