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One of my Dad's favourites of all time, Macarthur Park by Richard Harris from 1968, followed by one of my Favourites of all time, which I heard again today and was reminded, "Can you feel the love tonight", (1994) from The Lion King, sung by Elton John:-

To grade any coin you need to know what a mint state example looks like. Failure by the uninitiated to do this is why so many things on ebay are listed as extremely fine or unc. A washer is a washer, so anything with half decent detail appears to automatically deserve extremely fine. Sadly this is not how it works. That's why you should avoid ebay if you don't feel confident to grade a coin. Here are a few in varying grades.

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In fairness to the seller Mike ,when i bought one from him i did send a message asking the same as the coin was a few quid.Although i could not understand his reply he did send it Special delivery and i did receive it the day after .

Cabinet wear - often called "cabinet friction" applies to coins kept in an unlined wooden coin cabinet for long periods of time. It typically manifests on coins in better states of preservation, by showing up as a slightly duller, perhaps vaguely shiny area, usually on the obverse, as most collectors store their coins reverse side up. I always used to think it was caused by the coins sliding about when you moved the cabinet, but apparently it really applies to inert coins just kept in the same position for protracted periods of time. There's a definition here I don't understand the last sentence of that explanation though, as we still keep coins in wooden cabinets. ETA: Happy to be corrected on any of the above. Like @Madness I'm also not 100% sure and am employing some inspired guesswork.

I watch the program Paddy, and as it happens have just returned from a Holiday last week in Wales, and while there made a visited to the Royal Mint. One of the coins on show in the museum was the 1933 penny, and one thing that was very noticeable on the penny was a small round mark to the left of Britanniar's head which was also evident on the 33 shown on the TV. I would think it has to be genuine , though they could of course make one any time they wanted, and it would be genuine , But not from 1933 !!!!! Terry

Looks around the EF mark with some wear to the high points, but nothing excesive, and a couple of small contact marks. The grainy surface could be due to chemical etching, or could just be a crap photo. It may have been dipped at some point given the uniformity of colour. I would eliminate rusted dies, because both sides look the same.

An eclectic selection of some of my favourites.

When you click on that link above, Richard, look for the blue line just above the new entry, where it says "The listing you’re looking for is no longer available. Check out this similar item we found for you." and click on the word "listing" - that will take you to the original F32 listing and result.

Should be on i player, Paddy. Easy enough to get if you're on virgin or sky, or even over the internet. You can just Google "BBC i player", and it comes up. Enter the name of the programme you want to watch in search, and voila .....in fact I'll take my own advice and watch it.....

I had a short break in the Netherlands and been to The Hague on a day trip. The entries for the "World Sand Sculpting Championship" were on open display. Winner of the World Championship 2018!

I have had a few bargains myself , but I tend to do it to try and pick up any penny variations I dont have .Still waiting on my Gouby x for less than a tenner lol. As with most of my collecting , if I am patient ,I will get it eventually at the right price .

I think perhaps we should leave Larry alone. He didn't start the offending topic about Water Aid, and the person who did has now apologised for certain statements made attacking other members. To that extent we should draw a line under all this, as it's not serving any purpose. I doubt that the politics of the majority of members here strike much if any sympathy with me, but this is a coins forum, and we'd be better off banning politics and religion outright. Even in the 'Nothing whatever to do with coins' forum. Here we can meet on a numismatic footing and let's keep it that way.