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I think you're being too harsh. That's at least AEF in my opinion. Remember, these 1787 shillings and sixpences weren't intended for general circulation so we don't often get to see genuinely circulated worn examples. Also remember that the more you enlarge a picture from its life size the more you will exaggerate any flaws. However I wouldn't argue too closely with your markups, though a few of your red circles might indicate die wear rather than coin wear. (Oo-er, 9999 posts. Getting on the edge of unwanted - and quite probably undeserved! - Legend status..)

did you report it ? I have sent a message asking him to relist it as a modern fake

You lost for words

Thanks Rob, most interesting. I later found the following table which Earle Caley drew up to compare various contemporary scales; Mionnet / Leake / Dickeson / Prime and Head scales. Can’t recall seeing the other scales mentioned in old catalogues though. They didn’t seem to enjoy quite the same popularity as Mionnet😉 Scale Number Mionnet, 1805 Leake, 1854 Dickeson, 1859 Prime, 1861 Head, 1887 1 8.9 I 9.3 9.5 7.5 9.3 2 12.1 II 12.1 12.5 14.0 12.3 3 15.4 III 15.3 15.3 20.1 15.3 4 18.1 IV 18.1 18.3 24.2 17.8 5 21.2 V 21.2 21.3 28.2 21.0 6 23.7 VI 23.8 24.2 32.1 23.9 7 26.6 VII 26.6 26.6 40.4 26.1 8 28.9 VIII 28.8 28.9 43.0 28.4 9 31.8 IX 31.4 31.3 45.7 31.2 10 35.2 X 34.9 33.9 48.3 34.7 11 37.7 XI 37.5 36.5 52.3 37.5 12 40.5 XII 39.7 39.0 55.1 39.7 13 43.4 42.1 57.8 43.2 14 51.8 50.4 60.3 51.0 15 56.7 54.9 62.9 55.9 16 60.6 58.7 65.8 60.1 17 64.5 62.8 68.6 63.2 18 70.9 68.8 71.6 69.8 19 78.3 75.9 74.6 77.0 20 83.1 82.1

Most certainly you can recommend it! Looks great. Thank you.

Can I recommend the book "The Standard Guide to Grading British coins" by Derek Francis Allen. I've found this book invaluable over the years, when I've been slightly unsure as to a grade. Just looked and it is available on Amazon Australia, if you're interested, for $20.70 - link

The coin. Look at the reflections off the angled surfaces facing the light source. That is what the coin would look like if illuminated using a flash on the camera. There is no texture to the surface tone which is a good indication of having been cleaned or dipped at some point. The obverse hairlines betray a bit of abrasive cleaning by someone. Any coin in circulation will develop hairlines, but that goes hand in hand with accumulating dirt. Clean coin and hairlines says cleaned.

Hi. You might find Declan's site interesting . http://www.declanmageecoins.co.uk/E23.html