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They are not something i am familiar with myself. I've only ever viewed them in books or online but I'd agree it does not sit well on closer inspection. Those letters should not be single dot punch marks.

could be yea, toning looks like something along those lines but style doesn't fit, contemporary ones are a bit more spikey details than round but i cant tell for sure. pretty sure ifs not legit though

Thanks for the feedback. I've collected since being a kid, on and off, but know little beyond the basics- learning more recently, and finding the overstrikes and errors on the pennies very interesting. As you say Jelida, the stick is too short to even look like a Y. It's my most interesting Victoria penny though for it- I will try and get up a picture of the whole coin when I get the chance.

It just goes to show that there are bargains to be had. I got that coin, the Charles I shilling, a medal minted for Oliver Cromwells death, and 1828 farthing with most of the lustre but a couple of corrosion spots on the reverse and two old pennies minted at Heatons for £8.00. None were in brilliant condition, but far from the worst too.

I've never come across that type before , it looks like a halfpenny Y has been used in error , Nice find a new unlisted type. There is an 1861 with a normal Y over a small Y. Pic below

I think you are describing the beginnings of a new divide in the UK - not on the traditional left (Labour) versus right (Tory) lines, but along newer lines which Brexit may not be actually causing, but certainly highlighting. On one side you have the 'chattering classes', the internationalists, the younger, the liberals, the Greens, and many Scots - (quite a mix), while on the other you have traditionalists, nostalgics, working poor who feel ignored by Westminster, Tory 'Shires', the more elderly - (also quite a mix). It's very similar I feel, to the divide between Trump supporters and Trump haters in the US. I'm not sure the divide would be the same if was a different situation, i.e. non-Brexit, but the old divides are definitely beginning to be replaced with new ones.

In the Brexit debate, I think it is inappropriate to talk about the views of the "left" or views of the "right". The fact is that the country was deeply split in the referendum and one can hardly say that Remain was the view of the "Left" or Leave was the view of the "Right". Just because the Cameron government campaigned for "Remain" did not make them a "Leftie" government for example. The pie chart showing the contribution of Income Tax and NICs to various areas should be familiar to every UK tax payers. We get the diagram every year on our Annual Tax Summaries. It comes from HM Revenue & Customs and is not "supplied by the left which is intended to mislead". It tells me that about 0.7% of the income tax and NIC I pay each year go towards the UK contribution to the EU budget. If you want actual figures, they are easily obtainable: In 2017 the UK made an estimated gross contribution (after the rebate) of £13.0 billion. The UK received £4.1 billion of public sector receipts from the EU, so the UK’s net public sector contribution to the EU was an estimated £8.9 billion. This is a large amount of money of course but Peckris was only suggesting that it is a small fraction of what we spend on other things. E.g. £264 billion on welfare in 2017. I already had my say about Brexit and so will be not be commenting further in this tread for a while.