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This is what an Edward matt proof penny looks like...

A clear unlisted variety me thinks

I picked up an old collection of Farthings the other day - mostly for upgrades to my own collection. I have loaded the 19 I will use as upgrades to my Onedrive folder at: https://1drv.ms/f/s!Alos83kNwyLnsi3O4FW1J24Chp4K as there are too many to post individually here. (There are 19 in this folder from 1675 to 1863 and another 21 I have not photographed as they are not going into my collection, and will go for sale.) I hope those of you who enjoy farthings can get some pleasure out of reviewing them! A few queries too: 1. The 1721 is the "dot after date" variety. In Spink this is listed as only a little scarcer than normal, but I can find no example sold on Ebay recently. Does anyone have information on how much scarcer this actually is? 2. The 1863 seems to be 3a and Bb using the codes on @Colin G. site - but I can't see any trace of the slender 8 under the 8. Is this a different reverse die or is it just my poor eyesight? 🙂 3. Have I missed any other variety in this lot? For those who can't be bothered to use the link, here is on of my favourites - the 1749 Farthing, which, despite the obverse scratches, seems pretty good to me!

Beggars belief, doesn't it. Even more incredible that someone fell for it.

A dealer I know paid £200 for a large mixed lot at Warwick in the 90s - just to get that farthing. He then took it out, and sold me the rest of the lot ... for £200! Nice work if you can get it, or meet a mug like me..

I would really like to own that 1721. farthing its a lot better than the one in my collection

Although they are exaggerated in the image attached, there are two distinct types of 8 encountered in the farthings from 1862 - 1865. Your 1863 has the fat 8 style, but you often find the underlying thin 8 is also visible, by the thicker diagonal mid bar being partly visible in one of the loops.

The 1721 farthing with a dot is not as rare as the 1721/0 but I would hazard a guess at 10 out of 100 random coins of this date would be about right the 1721/0 is probably about 4 in a 100

A very nice purchase there @Paddy, some nice vickies too!

1. Bramah 12c - he says: "All the listed varieties are rare". 2. Agree with your die pairing. Nice pick up, Paddy.

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