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The jury's still out on the 1897 Dot . it was at first thought to be a identification marker , but its now thought to be the result of an indentation made on the top of the die , thereby giving a neat full stop like appearance . As to the Vigtoria Richard doesn't show this close up picture on his site , and as you can see the G looks far to neat in shape to be the result of a die crack, so I would favour the over stamped G made in error as the most likely cause , as the font punch used it could have come from dies used on different denominations or from a foreign coin type being produced at the mint.

It is really hard to get a decent pic thru a slab, but here is the round dot on the 1946.....

Christmas in Queensland. delonix regia in bloom otherwise known as Poinciana which is a native of Madagascar .

I just checked my 1946 with the apostrophe, and it is just like Richard's picture.

That it is. So are we looking at two separate phenomena (for want of a better word)?

Please- a pic of the round dot one...that will rather help this thread!

I have seen a couple of early flaw 1897 ones on ebay, but the 1870 and 1875 cannonball I have have perfect round dots. I haven't seen nascent versions of these, but, conversely, I haven't seen the 1946 turn into a round dot. Or was the flaw noticed before it had time to develop? It all rather reminds me of the VIGTORIA 1862- I find it more than a coincidence that it occurs right next to a know progressive die flaw, combined with the fact that there seem to be different styles of 'G', often not the font used on the rest of the coin.....

Were you talking to Semra Cetin? She can be a little on the tart side sometimes....

He passed away in january 2015, aged 94.

Here's my shilling from the same set

Hi Jon, You need to look at the "Newly identified Pattern and Proof variants" page 217. Cheers, Ian

The florin from my newest 1911 proof set

Fantastic choices above! I have thousands of lp’s, but then I started in the ‘70’s, and am still buying. My preferred listening includes much of the above, but add Genesis King Crimson (especially Court of the Crimson King) Bowie Dire Straits but I also have folk , pop, jazz etc- quite a cross spectrum of the second half of the 20th century. One of my current favourite bands is ‘Big Big Train’ , great prog rock, saw them in concert last month. Have a listen on YouTube. Jerry

Some good ones there! Pink Floyd is still my go-to favourite. (Not so sure about Nik Kershaw, but nothing personal...) A few ideas for expanding you listening: Tangerine Dream - long melodious but unusual tracks somewhere between Mike Oldfield and Kraftwerk. Moody Blues - inventive but slightly more "pop" prog music than Floyd. The Strawbs - More "folky" prog music than Floyd or Moody Blues. Some excellent concept songs and albums. I could go on with many many more, but that will do for now!

It's a pity this thread went under a bit. Last Christmas I treated myself to a turntable setup and records have honestly become a favourite hobby of mine since- as well as the obvious of course. As a ' millennial ' (as much as I dislike the term ) I would have grown up with online digital music - where it's not so much albums as it is singles/hit songs. It really is great to stick on an LP and listen to the obscure as well as the well known tracks. Here's what I've been listening to lately: Mike Oldfield Pink Floyd Tears for Fears Yazoo (Upstairs at Erics is such an underrated early 80's record) Spandau Ballet (Before I'm shot their first two albums have some genuinely brilliant synth stuff akin to Depeche Mode etc. After that they went full cringe) Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark Nik Kershaw (I'm sorry) Kraftwerk

Shame about the fingerprints

Yes I am with your opinion, even if I would like to know the source of 5500. It's he Royal Mint : ninety-seventh Annual Report of the Deputy Master and Controller for the year 1966. London, Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1967. those reports were published every year , this is one for ex. http://www.galata.co.uk/store.asp?storeAction=showDetail&stockID=11274