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A Lexus mechanic was removing a cylinder head from the motor of a LS460 when he spotted a well-known cardiologist in his shop. The cardiologist was there waiting for the service manager to come and take a look at his car when the mechanic shouted across the garage "Hey Doc, want to take a look at this?" The cardiologist, a bit surprised, walked over to where the mechanic was working. The mechanic straightened up, wiped his hands on a rag and asked "So Doc, look at this engine. I opened its heart, took the valves out, repaired or replaced anything damaged, and then put everything back in, and when I finished, it worked just like new. So how is it that I make £48,000 a year and you make £1.7M, when you and I are doing basically the same work?" The cardiologist paused, leaned over, and then whispered to the mechanic "Try doing it with the engine running"

I wonder where it is now 😉😇. Jerry

Even on a fairly well worn specimen the thinner heel of the thumb and the 4 teeth to the right of the trident are still visible. Additionally, reverse D has 2 clear teeth between the central and right hand trident prongs whereas reverse E has just a single clear tooth midway between the prongs.

"I was wondering who'd be the first to spot that Wilson" (as Captain Mainwaring used to say)

Not that, although that may, of course, be something else we need to know about. Rather than re-typing all the words, here's a photo of the relevant part of the article - from Coin Monthly, November 1971:-

F.W.K.Gee was a contributor to Coin Monthly in the early days. He wrote an article on Edward VIII pennies in the October 1969 edition. Then he wrote articles on the same topic in the August, September, October, November and December 1971 editions. A five part series. They were very detailed and informative articles, Jon. No idea what the "F W K" stood for though. With regard to the F169, I've never seen one on offer except at auction. I suspect there are one or two more, but difficult to tell as the border teeth are too worn to determine whether the 1 of the date is directly over a border tooth. Funnily enough in the November article, there is an interesting piece on how to determine whether a 169 is a 169 when the border teeth are too worn to otherwise tell. Bit late tonight as I'm practically falling asleep at the keyboard. But I'll dig out that specific article tomorrow, and post the details here.

Who's Gee please Mike? F169 now known to be approximately one in every 6 million as far as I can tell.

£440 .Decent example https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COIN-UNITED-KINGDOM-ONE-PENNY-BRITANNIA-EDWARD-Vll-BRONZE-1909-/154328988309?hash=item23eeb97a95%3Ag%3ARxkAAOSwagJgJqJA&nma=true&si=zGNhOPeEfsB5VMffTHlQjngAylU%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

8, nearly all of them still held by the Royal Mint and not available https://rarestpennies.wordpress.com/1937-edward-viii/

I feel more like baldrick on here .LOL. Much kicked about and abused , sorry make that manuel

Brilliant, thanks Mike.

Having a look on Richards site . The hand on rev D has more pronounced knuckles on the front , rev E it seems to be more of a straight line . Also the r/h/s trident prong on D points to a gap , but on E it points to a tooth .The hand difference would probably be noticeable on coins with more wear ,but if you can't tell whether the 1 points to a tooth , it is doubtful you could work out where the trident is pointing .

That’s very useful thanks Mike. Jerry

So, are those trefoils on the reverse of my coin not trefoils at all but pellets flattened by wear ? They certainly don't match the pellets on your lovely coin. Is this why I was searching in the wrong place?

It wasn't a type I had , so had a quick look on ebay for newly listed buy it nows . There was 2 within the first dozen . One quite worn , but the other was better , but not as nice as yours .Less than a fiver ,so not a hard decision .