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My 1843 DFF

There are certain dates I do a daily narrowed down "advanced" search for in e bay (literally every single day) - 1843 is one of those dates, mainly to see if I can find an "ordinary" 1843 in better shape than the ones I've got. Incredibly a DFF has finally shown up !!! I've been looking every day since April 2020, so in 18 months, this is the first. link to e bay sale of 1843 DFF !

Lovely, a nice buy. i have seen this before but didn't spot it, and bought something else instead.

Richard, In addition to the 1843 DFF's which I have emailed to you, which fell within my 2007 to 2012 study, I also bought this one on ebay in June 2017, sold again on ebay later that year.

Whilst an earlier comment suggested that crypto isn't backed by gold, government IOUs etc. go on any investing forum about crypto and the die hards will tell you you're investing in the technology behind it, namely the blockchain and how this will revolutionise the world. In terms of it replacing FIAT currency it won't catch on until a shop (eg) could reliably price something at 1BTC but with the volatility, at present that's not possible. Another big issue is how especially in some of the more alternative crypto's, one person can be the market. Even with BTC Elon can pump or dump the market with one tweet, meanwhile in the more 'alty' coins, one person allegedly bought 8k worth of Shiba in February of last year and it's now worth 1.5bn - how do you exit that position? There's a few stockmarket listed companies that mine crypto - Argo Blockchain being the most prominent. Once you feel you vaguely understand crypto, then start looking at NFTs. That's an absolute head**** and as with everything crypto a great ponzi scheme for those that get in early enough. Jack Dorsey the CEO of Twitter recently sold his first tweet as an NFT valued at 2.9m!

Interesting this conversation on the relative rarities of the 1843 and 56 pennies. While not a serious or scientific study, some idea of relative rarity can be derived from the LCA sales over the last 20 years. 1843 sold total 44 coins, 19 absent colon and 25 colon present of which 5 are DFF. 1856 sold total 65 coins, of which 46 plain trident and 19 ornamental trident. This would suggest that 1843 is the rarer date, though of the varieties 1843 no colon and 1856 OT are found in similar numbers. The total sample of 109 coins is likely to give a reasonable degree of accuracy, but not absolute- is there a statistician in the house? The prices paid for these latter coins, even in VG or corroded, tends to hover around £100. Jerry

Yes its your call to post what you want ,although i think the only person your helping is the seller who will be happy anyway to get more than he expected. The hundreds of people going on the forum who dont post ,maybe one of those will be greatfull.I just think to share a coin is if at all at least better posted in the members section. I also wonder if you would of shared the coin for dozens to see if you had wanted it. I am sure you have spotted numerous spending hours looking and would be dissapointed to see a lot more bidders forcing the price up.

In this case I think wider exposure is quite fair as the owner is clearly unaware of what it is. So beneficial to him. Why shouldn't he get the best price possible? We're quick enough to jump on sellers (and expose it) if they're misrepresenting something, even if inadvertently. As evidenced in "e bay's worst offerings". So this is the other side of the coin, no pun intended. I may well bid for it myself. You'll know if I do

I think I'll add this to the rare penny website - can I ask any owners to send me their pictures please.

It is a very lovely example

You 2 are both expert, 1843 is a bit higher than £50 while 1856 is slightly lower than £140, so average out it is about the same as per estimation. I love the 1856 as well, although some scratches on reverse. 1849 penny is the next target. I've seen 1 in auction months ago, but was outbidded. So, have to wait n search again.

Methinks the 1843 would fetch a fair bit more than £40.

In my opinion the F16 is worth far more than £14, so you have done very well I think.

Ah, Fat Freddy's Cat... My favourite:

Bitcoin really can be the 'Mal' in 'Malarkey'......

Hope the piccies will help you sort out Victoria's halfpennies. The mint really did have problems with the hardness of bronze when they started using it in 1860. I have 35 different examples dated 1861 with various dies, re-entered letters,dates etc. This is the prize for everyone to look out for.............1875 Obverse 13* (Iain Dracott's designation). Found in 2005 and only 1 known at the moment. I bought it because it was a really nice example of reverse L, then found it was an unknown obverse Merry Christmas to everyone....................Mal

Here is a specimen of an 1861 Half-Penny, Obverse 6, Reverse F... Unrecorded in Freeman, ackowledged by Iain Dracott as having only known of one specimen.... Here is confirmation..... Double incuse lines and more of the O of HONI SO visible...... The coin is Red-Brown... Digital images reflected off the slab. so I had to scan it for the best detail, although it dulls the color a bit...