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As we know as collectors, no one reference guide gives us all the varieties. I find it tricky as a collector to flick through Groom, Davies, Gouby, and the internet for unlisted varieties and listed ones (on sites like LondonCoins too), so have put together this list of shillings that you can copy and past and use as a checklist. If this helps I am more than happy to create lists for other denominations If anybody would like to give me a clear differentiators between the 1858 and 1859 shilling varieties that would be most helpful as Davies is so unhelpful! And if anybody thinks I am missing any varieties please reply and I will add them to the list 1816 1816, barless H of Honi (?) 1817 1817, high 7 1817, RRIT 1817, R/E in GEOR 1817, I/S in HONI 1818 1818, high 8 1819 1819, 9/8 1820 1820, high 2 1820, high 0 1820, barless H of HONI 1820, I/S in HONI 1821 1823 1824 1825 Shield 1825 Shield, 5/3 1825 Lion 1825 Lion, Roman 1 1826 1827 1829 1834 1835 1836 1837 1838 1839, W.W. 1829, no W.W. 1840 1841 1842 1843 1844 1844, large 44 1845 1846 1848 1848, 8/6, wide date 1848, 8/6 narrow date 1849 1850 1851 1852 1853 1854 1855 1856 1856, 7 to space 1857, 7 to bead 1857, high 57 1857, 5/5 1858, I of DEI to gap 1858, obverse 2 1858, I of DEI to bead 1858, 8/9 1859, I of DEI to gap 1859, obverse 2 1859, I of DEI to bead 1860 1861, narrow date 1861, wide date 1861, wider date 1862 1863 1864 1864, large 4, die 41 1865 1865, 5/3, die 29 1866 1867, I of VICT to bead, LL close 1867, I of VICT to bead, LL far 1867, I of VICT to space, LL close 1867, I of VICT to space, LL far 1868 1868, dot before date 1869 1870 1871 1872 1873, fat 3 1873, bottom loop of 3 open 1873, narrow 3 1864, slant-up tail 1874, t-bar tail 1875 1876 1877, no die number 1877, die number 1878, bun open 1878, bun closed 1879, cross right of bead, bun open 1879, cross right of bead, bun closed 1879, cross to space 1880, cross to bead 1880, cross to space 1881, cross to bead 1881, cross to bead, SHILLING more spaced 1881, cross to space 1882 1883 1883, A's protrude above legend 1884, cross away from beads 1884, cross touche beads 1888 1888, /7 1889, small head, Q has looped tail, 9 to bead 1889, small head, Q has looped tail, 9 to space 1889, small head, Q has almost no tail 1889, medium head, Q has looped tail 1889, large head, Q has almost no tail 1889, large head, Q has no tail 1890, cross on orb same width as cross 1890, cross on orb wider than orb 1891 1892 1893, I of VICT to space 1893, I of VICT to bead 1894, I of DEI to space, I of ING to space 1894, I of DEI to space, I of ING to bead 1894, I of DEI to bead, I of ING to space 1894, I of DEI to bead, I of ING to bead 1895, I of ING to space 1895, I of ING to bead 1896, I of ING to space 1896, I of ING to bead 1897, 9 and 7 far 1897, 9 and 7 close 1897, 9 and 7 almost touching 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903, TT of BRITT aligned 1903, TT of BRITT misaligned, wide gap between R and D of ED 1903, TT of BRITT misaligned, small gap between R and D of ED 1904, TT of BRITT aligned 1904, TT of BRITT misaligned, wide gap between R and D of ED 1904, TT of BRITT misaligned, small gap between R and D of ED 1905 1906, TT of BRITT aligned 1906, TT of BRITT misaligned, wide gap between R and D of ED 1906, TT of BRITT misaligned, small gap between R and D of ED 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911, I of IVS to space 1911, I of IVS to bead, hollow neck 1911, I of IVS to bead, flat neck 1912, P of IMP to bead 1912, P of IMP to space 1913 1914 1915 1916 1917 1918 1919 1920, : after OMN to gap 1920, : after OMN to bead 1921, I of IVS to bead, : after OMN to space, I of FID left of bead (3D) 1921, I of IVS to space, I of FID left of bead (3E) 1921, I of IVS to space, I of FID right of space (4E) 1921, I of IVS to bead, : after OMN to bead, I of FID left of bead (5D) 1921, I of IVS to bead, : after OMN to bead, I of FID right of space (5E) 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1926 ME 1927 short tail 1927 long tail 1928 1929 1930 1931 1932 1933 1934 1935 1936 1937 E 1937 S 1938 E 1938 S 1939 E 1939 S 1940 E 1940 S 1941 E 1941 S 1942 E 1942 S 1943 E 1943 S 1944 E 1944 S 1945 E 1945 S 1946 E, I of SHILL to space 1946 E, I of SHILL to bead 1946 S 1947 E 1947 S 1948 E 1948 S 1949 E 1949 S 1950 E 1950 S 1951 E 1951 S 1953 E, I of LIZ to bead 1953 S, I of LIZ to bead 1953 E, I of LIZ to space 1953 S, I of LIZ to space 1954 E 1954 S 1955 E, thin rim 1955 E, thick rim 1955 S, I of ING to space 1955 S, I of ING to bead 1956 E, I of FID to bead 1956 E, I of FID to space 1956 S 1957 E 1957 S 1958 E 1958 S 1959 E 1959 S, ornaments near 1959 S, ornaments far 1960 E 1960 S 1961 E 1961 S 1962 E 1962 S 1963 E 1963 S 1964 E 1964 S 1965 E 1965 S 1966 E 1966 S

I sometimes wonder what some politicians think they were elected to do? It's very rare for me to think a politician is employable.......

Yes, although to be fair I think the question would have caught out most individuals, including from the Labour Party. I'm equally sure that at some point we could devise a question that made one of their politicians look dumb. Personally can't see the point either way, as it was so obviously contrived. The best way forward would have been to politely ask where the two regions concerned are located. As far as back stabbing, too much time and energy is being expended on personal vendettas, to the detriment of the country. Irrespective of whether Boris stays or goes, we urgently need to move on, before we become the laughing stock of the world. Can you imagine what Putin thinks about a parliament and media obsessed with garden parties that took place nearly 2 years ago?

Exactly! How much would it have boosted her career and public standing to have said that? All it needed was more background knowledge, and less posturing, hubris and drinks parties. I sometimes like to think of politicians as standing in a circle patting each other on the back whilst saying' aren't we great'..... ...of course, to stab someone in the back, you have to be right behind them......

They were obviously trying to trip her up, otherwise why ask the question, which would otherwise appear obtuse to someone familiar with the geography. Even so, we need politicians who are a bit more on the ball and do their homework before such meetings. If she had been, then she could have made them look idiots by answering "yes, why wouldn't I, they're part of Russia". Yours Sincerely, Mike of Englandshire

..or, more efficiently, French jewellery .........!

Sorry to come to this thread late, but I have only just had a chance to compare with my 1852 florin. The only thing that stands out to me is the line running along the bottom of the bust. I wonder if the grader thought that this was an "alteration" or "repair"? In any event, @Paulus, you have a very nice coin.

Well if they do invade, there's nothing we can do, as Ukraine isn't a member of NATO. The West, collectively, isn't going to risk a world war over them. When the iron curtain collapsed in 1989, we should have suggested a completely new order to replace both NATO and the (then) Warsaw Pact, which would have encompassed Russia as a leading player, along with the rest of us. Might have avoided all this current tension. Being ex KGB, Putin probably misses the cold war days.

the thin bitch who loves the jewelry and france ?

Apparently Liz Truss was asked "Did we recognise Russian soveriegnty over two regions?" She replied "We will never recognise it". Then had to be discreetly told by an ambassador that the regions in question are in fact Russian. And to think she may yet be PM - God help us!