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......I've really lost it this time. I realised that I'd had vehicles from the 1960's onwards, but never one from the '80's, so that's sorted. I last drove a Renault 4 when I drove the Open University one back from Lisbon in 1986, with a large geologist and a pile of rocks, and I couldn't believe how simple and capable this little car was..... I was a fan of Minis at the time, but the 4 was an eye-opener.

Yes, this type of business model is IMO destroying at least some of the market for GB coins, resulted in great profits and chasing true collectors out of the market in droves. Understandable is a slow(er) upward drive in prices but pump and dump methods with log value raise in "value" of coins reflects naked greed that we see now so often in the market. BTW, I believe the blue color has been imparted to the surface by application of the product "MS 70" which when incompletely washed seems to do this to coin surfaces. I have seen some absolute rubbish about the solvent(s) in it removing overlying toning and revealing supposedly true colors beneath the toning. That IMHO is an absolute load of BS.

Ah thanks for the input! Yea, don't care for those 50 P coins as IMO they are overhyped and not ordinary currency coins generally (although there are some marginal coins to be sure). The 2008 "no date" I agree is entirely overrated and have seen auctions with up to and greater than THIRTY STRAIGHT LOTS! I have heard some rumours, likely not proven that some of the reported 1981 10p mintage were actually 1980 coins. I saw Gouby's coins and had a bit of a laugh as I just got two for 21 USD including tax, shipping, etc. - or about 8 pounds per coin & mine are nice uncirculated coins with decent lustre. I have had a look at some other smaller denomination coins in the decimal currency series and have not been impressed although for some reason I like the large modulus 2p coins... I got one of the Martini 1983 sets featuring the 2 New Pence coin and have kept it in original packaging although the red lustre is beginning to fade a bit despite my best preservation efforts.

I don't need to look very far. As someone who has used Photoshop extensively, I'd estimate that any combination of Unsharp Mask, Smart Sharpen, and / or High Pass filters have been used on that image. As a picture of a genuine coin I'd always go with the London Coins image. The blue is a joke. Reminds me of nothing so much as Coin Monthly's Year Book images at the head of each type in the Blue Pages - the isolation of the main design, legend, and rim, with the fields just a blank blue. But they weren't selling coins, just illustrating the different types.

Having looked at the picture of this one numerous times a few days ago i have now found to the best of my knowledge that the Reverse die is unrecorded ,other than being used for the VIP set. I was told months ago that the coins for the 1953 VIP set and not just the penny were struck from different dies and this clear picture of a farthing is one. Its not REV A or B. F to GAP I to TOOTH ,possibly longer teeth also though not 100% sure on that one.

My wife bought a large camper van off our friends very cheaply when they bought a new one, and just loves it. I'd rent one cheaply out of season and you'll find out if it suits you very quickly! I mean a camper van, not a wife...

Good for you. I've often thought how much I'd like a camper van...motor home, or whatever they're called. The perfect leisure travel solution for those who appreciate the countryside. i thought about it a lot during covid, as it would have meant the freedom to travel without having to mix with anyone else. I could even have taken the cat with me. The idea seems just as viable as we start to enter a post covid world.

Thanks Pete, I do actually have one, but am constantly scouring to see how often things pop up! Cheers for the offer though!

Nice find - I didn't think there would be any new farthing discoveries at this point, least of all in the Elizabeth II series.

Agreed 100% with your last sentence.

Will somebody please remind me never to buy a coin from Atlas? I'm so worried that I might do so accidentally.... I hate all this crap - gouge gouge gouge.....

You could be waiting a long time for that answer I reckon!

1/ Hmmm. not sure that really answers my question, except perhaps in a very non commital way. 2/ Your pricing policy is numerically obvious. It doesn't require further explanation or excuse.

This coin and two other ‘VIP’ 1953 farthings are listed in LCA past sales, but only this one appears to have the new reverse. A rarity indeed. Jerry

I've just check out all the wren Rev. and - Edward viii and George vi Reverse A , same as Elizabeth ii 1953 Reverse A - Has narrow rim 80 teeth 1953 Reverse B - Has narrow rim 79 teeth 1954 Reverse C - Has wide Rim 76 teeth 1955 Reverse D - Has narrow rim 76 teeth Some years after this reuse these four reverses , But Your New find VIP proof has - 1953 Unlisted Wide Rim 77 teeth not used as far as i can tell on any other year !

Pete it looks very much like the reverse C found on the 1954 with the F in FARTHING to the gap, and as you say is not listed for 1953 . one other noticeable difference is the outer rim is much wider than the A or B. It also looks to be in Cameo with polished field and frosted images . Well done great discovery

If you want to remove pvc residue, as I do on occasion, why not just use acetone? Very effective, inexpensive, and doesn’t affect the coin in any way. And also doesn’t turn anything blue, unless you breathe too much of the vapour to the exclusion of oxygen….oh, happy times…..😳 🥴☠️ Jerry

So, a few questions here. Is it genuinely blue, implying it has been treated with whatever that solution is that leaves a blue residue? Are the hair strands now in higher relief having been 'improved'? That guy in the states does a good repair job, so enhancing the hair would be a simple job for him. Do PCGS routinely alter their images from the colours seen naturally in hand? Many images have this blue colour, implying consistency of manipulation, even if not giving an accurate representation. The US market apparently likes this colour scheme based on realised prices. If the images are routinely doctored, then how do you differentiate between them and those that have been artificially coloured?

Just arrived yesterday and not the best picture 😀 1853 Small date P.T. and scarce.