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Very happy to do that Mike, if ok with you, as it would be very interesting to see if it's a different 1841 REG: date style.

I agree with Jerry, but I am still sure that the date widths must be the same on both these coins. It would be a hell of a coincidence if there were two different date widths paired with the 1841 REG: reverse which both had flaws through the numeral 8, and the letters in VICTORIA, and both have a 1/1. My guess is that the coin pictured right on Mike's pictures is a little angled to the camera and that this gives the impression that the 1 and 8 are closer. There also appears to be either some grime or shadow to the left hand side of the 8 and also a generally darker area between the right of the 1 and the left of the 8.....both these things tend to give the added impression that the numerals are closer together. I attach a picture of what I believe is the SAME obverse on a coin which I have tried to angle in the same way as Mike's right hand picture. To confirm exact numeral locations Mike's coin really needs to be put under a digital microscope at right angles to the coin.

Hi Ian - if it were purely the angle of the camera then it would not be as obvious to the naked eye as it is. If you like, I could send it to you for closer examination, to see what you think. Let me know. ETA: under magnification there is definitely some grime, but I'm not convinced that would distort the impression to such an extent.

Yes, but that was Scotland. Nicola must have sorted it !

I agree they look different, though photos from an identical viewpoint - camera stand etc- would be helpful as photos can/do lie. However the relationships with border teeth do seem to differ. The second, more worn coin does appear to have the die flaw through the date, as Ian shows. Both are better than my pitiful current example. Jerry

Looks like a Holland D* as well (sub-variety of Freeman D). Paul Holland has looked at some die cracks in his articles but they're in-depth (not just documenting the different cracks).

I'd agree and would also say that the presence of a die crack doesn't constitute a variety, i.e. a unique combination of obverse and reverse types, and so I wouldn't expect to see die cracks (resulting from heavy die usage) mentioned in any reference book.

Bit surprised no one's answered you yet so I'll have a go. Freeman 10, Obverse 2 Reverse D.

Thinking about it, two scenarios occur to me; either the copper proofs were made before the bronzed proofs and this die polish line only appeared then, or the toning has hidden the hairline from view.