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Well at least I got one side right ! Back to looking...

Watch out for these people....not only have they ripped me off, but have continued with the listing after being warned about their use of pictures. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334514858278?hash=item4de2a3a926:g:WA8AAOSwURZi4TLf&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4AHQw0uXUq%2BDjvfI0LxL6GsvSSuBWvqbYa1HXdWAd%2BuACjompC76dnrSCIFAQVVHA2Cyi%2FOsH4WEaKuSSbs3EgyPgeZn758iToTl%2FPtESRXbUDTnszObknrIzQ1EXKcD4ViYctc684DzWGrT4EIUNFlF%2F97kp25q5sw8DbZi1ldsOiezBTdTyKmdvoyniwgoaFQdy5nMBOVbenj0mONHmlUgGKN8OlQ03VcuExBzvWmHgVbjRWf4%2Fq0JuqvQ%2F7Ufnr0klZ0F1bJTBksP3W7gIr%2Ba%2BwPmtFYr6ohO3UMCLuge|tkp%3ABk9SR8DG6YTfYA Here is one of their pictures. Notice the coin on the third row, second from the left- a clear F169. I bought the pile of 1909's..... 'as pictured', remember....and that coin wasn't there.....grrrr.... No refund, just silence. Trading standards very interested, but what a waste of my time just to get my money back, and these twats are still suckering people in.....

I still have a bit of a problem with a clash of edges as I consider it implausible you could get that depth of impression from 28g of silver falling onto another edge, perfectly aligned so as to produce the incuse A as if it were part of the edge. It isn't the same situation as a brockage, where you have a coin in situ to make the incuse detail on one side, all made using one of Boulton's presses utilising much more force than that obtained by gravity. If there was another coin only partially ejected, then I expect the collar to malfunction as the first coin would have to be in the same plane as this coin, and that would surely jam the mechanism. It doesn't add up to my way of thinking. The collars used for this issue are 3 part (or at least my type example - 1819 no stops is so), with their ends joining in the middle of the gaps after DECUS, TUTAMEN and REGNI. That would be consistent with the clear joint line after TUTAMEN, but the other two are not obvious. Where the join should be after REGNI, is that a trace of a full height cross pattee, and in the gap after DECUS a smaller cross - or am I just seeing things? Crosses were used on some edges during William III and Anne on halfcrowns, but my crowns of these two reigns didn't use them (only used on halfcrowns?). I don't have a late Geo. II crown to say what was used on the issues prior to the new coinage. Help someone? The earlier silver used the Castaign edging process, which in the case of a couple of my coins left a very sharp vertical cutoff in one place (with a step in height on the edge), as seen after TUTAMEN above and coincidentally also after TVTAMEN on some of the earlier coins in my trays. Was this consistently the starting or terminal legend on the strip and I'm wondering if could this be a one part collar? I can't see any trace of a vertical line in the appropriate place, but this could be due to wear. Check? I don't think we have the answer yet, so more research required.

You can rule out 5a1. The letter X is incorrect and the crown ends for class 5a1.5b2 is more likely. This guide is a bit better. It may help. Longcross Coin Guidebook

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