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Yes the Large date is only what i consider rare in grades above VF ,like most copper penny varieties you can find most if you look hard enough. Try finding them in high grade though...... I have this Large date in the Baldwin Auction and not many as good to the best of my knowledge ,if it wasnt for the ejection pinch at the top i feel it may of graded higher.

For Monday..........(with apologies for the F word. I would have said buzz off or clear off)

Looking not 100% unlike Emma Peel in that picture..

I don't think I ever posted it on here, Ian. Maybe discounting it as an "average" coin. But here it is, along with the old e bay purchase record. Was very, very lucky with this as I just happened to be in my e mail in box when Dave's e mail came through, so clicked on it immediately. Was calling him 3 or 4 minutes later. Makes up for the several previous times when I've missed out as I've not realised until a day later that he'd sent one.

Just to add to how rare these are although you know F474 4+C. I have just been talking to Dave Craddock and over 40 years has looked at thousands and never found one ,in his opinion they are much rarer than R12 👍 If he tells me something is extremely rare it will be , as MOST types of BRONZE coins he will of had a few of and probably handled and looked at more than anyone else.

I came across the November 1969 "British Coin Index" while clearing out before moving house. I must have inherited it from my dad, as I was only 6 years old in 1969. Some of the prices are quite interesting. Uncirculated Gothic Crowns seem a bargain at £185 (or £210 if you want the plain-edge proof), while poor old Churchill crowns haven't made much progress on the 37.5 pence quote in 1969. On the florins, my particular area of interest, there are some surprises. The 1932 UNC at £230 (not far off today's price in absolute terms) is more than the 1905 (£200) or 1925 (£220), while uncirculated 1849 Godless florins are only £34.

Thanks. There are also distinct patterns of wear apparent in dies 3 & 4 (not die 2 as the known specimens are in a better state of preservation). On the die 3 examples, the reverse fields show a common pattern of wear, extending down to affect the ship and lighthouse, and on the die 4 examples, the word "ONE" on the reverse shows consistent signs of wearing away.

Something I've noticed is that the die number itself seems to increase in thickness from 2 through to 4, with the 2 being quite faint, and the 4 being quite noticeable (thicker, more solid). Perhaps similarly the 5. Maybe there were Die No 1 specimens, but the impression of the 1 was so faint that it wore off completely over time, and none were ever recognised. It might also go some way to explaining why all the Die No 2 examples are relatively much higher grade than 3 and especially 4. Although I appreciate there is an obvious flaw in that logic.

Mildly surprised that a coin of that class that isn't slabbed for protection from dropping onto hard surfaces and such like. Maybe the owner was worried it would never come back,or doesn't like slabs.

Ian bradey would have had no chance then......