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Well if Mr Wyon had not made any mistakes, the bronze coinage of 1860-63 would have been a lot less interesting.

Yes, I've just now tried to use their webpage too and after which noticed this thread in Google. As Mike says: not good.

I felt that I contributed too much detail on the thread on Half pennies showing all the overstamps and errors I had found in my own collection collected in the last 6 years. Every coin has come from eBay and I have never attended an auction and I have enjoyed the challenge of finding errors already discovered and covered comprehensively by M Goulby in the specialised edition Bronze Pennies from 1860 to 1901 and others mentioned in numerous excellent websites created and administered by long time members of this forum and others who I am unsure if members. I wanted to photograph and record all my examples for my own catalogue in readiness for donation to the Trust I hope then it will be used after my demise to help them sell off my collection. I may replicate examples in other places with this in mind. I will use the prefixes used by Goulby and so that I can start to remember them the Freeman nomenclature. I find errors surprisingly interesting, Perhaps because of the turmoil in the transition to Bronze from Copper they illustrate a somewhat chaotic time at the mint. In previous discussions others have explained some of the problems there is an interesting back story which involves a lot of politics and a great deal of personal intrigue in the life of L C Wyon the designer of the new reverse and obverse. The royal mint seems to have been undergoing a lot of changes which may contribute to some of the story and sadly most f the records for this period are lost because of a fire in the records office of the Royal mint in the 19th C. If you feel you would rather this be included in some other thread then just let me know and I will stop and relocate. It takes a lot of time to photograph and record these errors. More than anything else I would be eternally grateful for your own examples that will help verify any previously unlisted. This goes for the half pennies in particular which do not get the same limelight as the penny. So please add your own Thanks

I think that not studying die wear and faults on bronze strikings carried out by Heaton before 1860 is a mistake. The die variations and reasons behind them may well be more easily explained if earlier foreign bronze coinage was studied to the extent that bronze UK pennies and halfpennies 1860-63 have been.....

I did try with the app - direct from the link on the faulty website - but was told that both my android devices were both incompatible. Even though my tablet and phone are less than a year old. Virtually new. Not good.

Perhaps we should start a new thread to write episodes of the mini series ourselves. I have a copy of Wyon's diary and have read some of the papers online of Victoria's diary. I am sure there is quite a bit in Hansard from parliament. And we can ask Viking River Cruises to sponsor the holiday in Europe sections. I am sure if they can make it up on the "The Crown" we could have a good shot at it. Still my ideas rarely bolster a lot of interest and at times feel fictional. Story of my life methinks LOL

Yes I have often wondered that very question myself. I have various tokens with Entente Cordiale with the head of Victoria and you would have thought that this friendly juice could have perhaps stretched to having a chat. Perhaps it is an issue of the complexity of the design as much as anything. Having looked at the Canadian bronze from this period there don't seem to be quite so many errors. I think I have one 1862 over 1861