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Hi Richard Here is what I thought might be 1905 small "0." The "0" does look smaller. Great to get your thoughts Very Best Regards

Here you go: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=475473#4232484

For @Citizen H, Yes, it looks like there are problems with a number of the letters on the 1776 twopence, but that is not scarce for that era. Interesting, but not changing the value enormously. For @DaveG38- Does your 20 missing include 1 and 2 pence coins? I left those out - they are so small they drive me up the wall! I only went for the 3 and 4 pence coins - missing both the 1765s, which are always very scarce, the 1792 3 pence (wire money), and then for some reason 1743 and 1703 4 pence. I haven't searched for these for years, maybe I should have another look. For @Mr T, I agree on patience. I got the majority of my collection through serendipity rather than great expense. Many came to me when I was dealing as part of bundles offered to me for sale in the markets, or in response to general newspaper adverts. These days too many people are internet savvy and so these bargains don't happen much anymore. Recently I have had to lay out more serious money to fill the remaining gaps!

Getting somewhat off topic but too right - I was telling a family member recently that there are some coins that money can't get you - only patience can.

Hopefully you've all had a good Christmas, and as its now over I have a new type for the New Year . I'm sure most of you know that there are two types of 1905 penny listed, the F160 with the E in PENNY pointing to the gap between the teeth [ early type] , and the F161 with the rotated E pointing to the tooth [late type]. Well I noticed some time ago that some of the F160s have a small zero in the date, this by its self seemed of little importance , but I later realised that all of the pennies with the large zero , both F160s and F161s all have the straight bottoms to the Es in PENNY, whereas the small zero type, on all the examples I have managed to find , have the wavy bottomed Es. The straight and wavy Es were both in use from 1899 through to 1905, but only the straight type from then on. The small zero was used from 1901 to 1905, and after this the large zero from 1905 to 1908. This means that it is a transitional type reverse die used between the 1904 F159 and the 1905 F160. It also suggests that the differing bottoms to the Es, was a Font change, rather than a warn die creation. As if it was caused by wear, then you would expect to find at least some of the F160s and the F161s with the large zeros to have the wavy Es . Terry Top :- New type F160 Middle :- F160 Bottom :- F161

With the Anne 1703 Fourpence I can give you a more up to date valuation. Prompted by your post and the reminder that it was one of the few dates I was still missing, I found one on Ebay and have bought it. I would say similar or very slightly better condition than yours and I paid £55 plus postage for it.

Book price in Fine is £25 (Spink 2024), but I suspect it would make a bit more in the current market. Maybe £40?

Well, I take it all back! I have now seen this one. The seller states that 3 are known (not sure where that data is obtained from though). Just to clarify - this is not the type with the last i re-entered directly over a much lower i - I have one of those! The stop (or blob ?) is significantly offset from the final i. So, is this what the cataloguers meant?

Here you go.

Paddy, You have done well. Like you I'm collecting the 'maundy' issues over that period, but I still have 20 to find. Funny enough the expensive ones tend to have been fairly easy, but there are some dates I don't think I have ever seen.

Yes, that was an entirely optimistic estimate IMHO as people are not enthralled with these at any price. Interested anecdotal piece that also IMHO is more of a 3k type coin.

Hi H, I am not sure any of those three would really be classified as Maundy money. The 1838 twopence is one of two years in Victoria's reign when twopences were issued for general circulation, mostly in the colonies. (The other is 1848.) For the other two, prior to 1797 pennies, twopences, threepences and fourpences were issued in silver for general circulation. The designs were the same for the Maundy coins, but the latter were generally of a higher standard. The circulation coins turn up generally well worn from day to day usage. The middle twopence is George III so the date must be 1776, not 1716. Still very nice coins to have in your collection. Because these smaller coins are generally much cheaper than the larger silver coins of the same era, they make great collections. I set about trying to get all the dates for threepences and fourpences pre 1797 and have achieved all but 5 back to 1670. One is actually the 1703 fourpence you have!

Wow! Those are really rare (only the 4th I’ve seen in about 10 years), and this is by far the best one. Very very envious!

I just can't bring myself to spend a lot more on this "inverted 1" variety when it is now well known it is due to a filled die and so not a "true" variety. The correct thing to do is to delist it as a variety. But there is no inclination to do that of course.