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Hello! Ooo, that looks bad doesn't it. Same happens for me from the main predecimal.com root (without /forum/ etc). Sorry for being slow with this. I was away in GB for some of the time. The forum software is quite old now and could do with an update. The problem is, it requires a newer version of something in the background (php), which isn't normally an issue, but I know that other stuff won't work with the newer version. I think the way forward is to turn predecimal.com into just a forum. I don't really buy/sell coins at all anymore as it became less practical since brexit and also I wanted to concentrate on on the books and app, as they are so much simpler to manage, which is what I've been doing for some time. It should be possible to separate the forum, have it work from the root predecimal.com/ and upgrade everything in the background so that it all functions properly again. There may be some issues along the way that will need to be ironed out, but I don't really see an alternative.

Bloody Top Cat and his Gang have set up home outside my workshop....

New to me 1875 8G, freeman 79 https://imgur.com/a/AN8FSpQ

Very good job on the research. Not at all sure however that the "AR" can be taken literally as the coin definitely being of silver composition as it was and continues to be used in referring to copper nickel iterations of former actual struck-in-silver coins of that denomination(s). As a side note there are some transitional issues of coins of a date that should be actual silver being struck in pattern form in Cu-ni (ie 1923 3d, 1923, 1924 shillings and the very rare 1946 shillings).... So these 1960 crown coins may well exist in silver but definitive proof would be required: wight, specific gravity and XRF testing, etc.

Plagiarist. 'My word' should be 'Their word'.

so just found amongst some Victorian crowns in the hoard... 8 Reales 1852, MEXICO there has been a recent chat about Counter stamps and chop marks.....I didn't realise I had one!?!??! 😕 (These coins, made of 90.3% silver, not only consolidated the post-independence Mexican economy but also circulated in markets as far away as China and the Philippines.) 8 Reales 1799 - Charles IV, Spanish, for me? a Awesome find...! 👍🙏

@DaveG38 *is* David Groom!

Ruding (several editions) dated from the early 19th century (1819). That had anything issued in an English king's name. One thing about the coins is that the images were taken from wood carvings of the relevant coin. Snelling (1762 on) was a series of books covering English Silver (1762); English Gold (1763); Copper Coins, including tokens (1766); Anglo-Gallic, EIC, West Indies, IOM and foreign imitations (1769); Jetons and Counters (1769). They tried to show any missing detail on the wood carvings with what they interpreted it to be on fully round pieces of wood, whereas in reality the coins weren't. So, the W/SA 6d illustrated in Snelling pt.1 purports to be mm. Tower/helmet, whereas it is in fact my example which is one of two known Tower both sides, as the missing section of the reverse mark corresponds exactly to my coin's unambiguous base of a tower, and is in fact a clear die duplicate of the fully round Lockett coin which has a clear Tower both sides. Lockett's is fairly fully struck up whereas my coin has flat sections in both legends, a slightly double struck obverse, and is not so aesthetically pleasing, but clearly a higher grade with less physical wear. Dowle and Finn was published in the 1960s and remains a standard reference for Irish Coinage. Lord Stewartby wrote a book that is quite comprehensive in its coverage of English coins 1180-1551, but his Scottish collection, which he was going to gift to various Scottish institutions suffered a loss when his 12th & 13th century collection was stolen in 2007 from his home. The Hunterian collection of his Scottish from 1488 -1625 is documented in a Spink book available on Amazon for about £60. This link https://www.britnumsoc.org/images/Annual_BNJ/2018/STEWARTBY.pdf to the BNJ obituary lists his publication at the end. He did however write a book or two on Scottish coinage. Anglo-Gallic coins are covered in both English and French language publications, including the Standard Catalogues for both countries. There are also Spink equivalents in French published by CGF, and others, particularly Duncan in association with the Elias collection which was on of the major accumulations of this material. Don't disregard individual sales of the various materials such as the Dundee Collection (1976). English information is by far the easiest to find, and if you take Peck & Freeman for coppers, you will be reasonably covered., though Montagu is also worth considering. Basically you are spoilt for choice for books, though how much just offers duplication is moot. Stewart (1887), Montagu 1888 & 1893, Brooke (1932). If you are into minor varieties, then there is little choice until the last 50 years when publications took off. Historically, people were always more generalist than focussing on a small specific area. The weakest area is gold, but that is likely a reflection of its affordability.

Just soak it in acetone, won’t do any harm. Jerry

??? Ive no Idea ??? where the heck this came from or how long Ive had it.... interesting all the same. King Christian IV Obverse Crowned half-length figure of King Christian IV facing right, wearing armour, sash, lace ruff, and holding right arm on the hip. Partial beaded circle around. Script: Latin Lettering: CHRISTIANUS · IIII · D : G · DANI 1613 Unabridged legend: Cristianus IIII, Dei gratia, Daniae. Translation: Christian IV, by the grace of God, of Denmark. Reverse Inscription in three lines. Coat of arms of Denmark with or without cross below. Partial beaded circle around. Script: Latin Lettering: NORV : VAN DA · GO TO : Q REX 🞴 I 🞴 MARCK DANSKE Unabridged legend: Norvegiae, Vandalorumque, Gothoruque rex. Translation: King of Norway, the Wends, and the Goths. 👍

It all looks fine to me.

Update - although I didn't see the duplicated list at my end, I checked the actual page in edit mode and it was duplicated which hopefully I've fixed.

got to wondering.................PB = Paddle Boat, ? hence crossed oars?? Any Ideas ???

1900 Penny Dates There just seem to be two widths for 1900. Wondered if anyone has found any wider than 11 teeth or narrower than 10.5 teeth ? I only have examples of those two and and minor variations on the position of the 9 e.g. the base of the 9 aligned with the base of the 1

Thanks Rob, never sure if it makes them more or less collectible but enjoyable nonetheless the less.

Probably the A was reinforced using a V punch after the die became worn/filled. The original crossbar is still visible, so either letter would do. Alternatively the inverted V was punched in first, the error noted and then punched a second time using the right punch. Given the original design was engraved on a larger diameter face than the diameter of a penny and then reduced, the first would be more likely, as faulty engraving is more obvious prior to reduction of diameter, and in any case you would expect to see it on all dies made from that obverse.

Half way along Route 66 also the weather in Arizona. Much cooler in Brisbane being the middle of winter 22 deg C or 71 deg F.

Good morning all! I'm very happy to share another piece of the puzzle that the Royal Mint Museum was able to unearth! Kudos to them! As mentioned in some prior messages, Day references in "English Silver Crowns" a Communication to the author from the Librarian and Curator of the Royal Mint, dated April 25th 1961. Here's Day's letter and the reply. Surprisingly enough, the exchange also talks about our main query regarding the search of the silver crown!

Definitely so. The crude, porous surface is proof of this (probably due to a high zinc content).

I would suggest the 1816 is a contemporary forgery in pewter. The colour looks all wrong for Silver, and the wear is excessive. (They were often made ready worn to disguise any imperfections.)

Solid very fine for me. By the way, it is an example of the 1758 over 7 overdate. Both the plain date and the overdate are very common, but might add a bit of interest for you...

I am not greatly into this Grading Mularkey but I would say the NGC 65 is way over graded - far too much loss of detail on the bust. I would say the other two are very similar and I would choose your ungraded one over the PCGS 64.

I had an NGC MS65 1920 Florin that was superb and struggle to find a better one.

It's like a maze, Ian, but I did find this bit:- The above is from the government's website here Obviously no idea if your item is over 100 years old, and quite how they draw any meaningful conclusion about whether it's part of a collection or a collector's piece, I've no idea. All items of numismatic interest are potentially part of a collection, so I've no idea what they mean. Nor do they state what the reduced rate of VAT actually is.