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Starting off, I owe you all a big Thank You...I came here 1 year ago and was recovering from a stroke... my reading and speaking has got better and my chaos has improved as well.... to a degree. Ive attached some photos of what's been paged and has put some order in place.... if the worse happen I'd hate to think what would have happen to these coins... The hammered coins (pennies) still cause problems for me and still there others to follow.... Sorry! 😟 once again a huge Thank You one and all for the support and clarification when assisting my queries, I wouldn't have been able to have got this far without it. Kind Regards "H"

"The Harold II silver penny hoard only includes pennies minted by the king" You would have thought a king would have better things to do

Welcome to the forum @sambevan77 An interesting selection, but as you say nothing I think of startling value. It would take a long time and a lot of effort to fully ID all of those. A few shots: Row 1 - first is Roman, second looks to be "Hollandia" - ie Netherlands 18thc, third might be an Indian temple token, fourth and fifth I think are Ancient Sri Lankan, sixth looks byzantine, seventh no idea. Row 2 - first may be another byzantine, 2nd, 3rd, 4th look to be Indian , 5th maybe French, 6th, 7th and 8th Roman. Row 3 - 1st, 3rd and 4th look South American, 2nd might be the most valuable as it maybe an Indian gold Fanam, 5th and 9th no idea, 6th, 7th and 8th Indian or Middle Eastern. I hope that helps. You will have to do much more research in your own time, but hopefully those thoughts will get you into the right areas.

Most of the stuff I buy seems to look like that

Someone has took a genuine 1820 coin and altered it to 1817 then cast it i assume. Anyway....I found the paper's that Gary Oddie wrote if anyone is interested. They are all on the link here...https://britnumsoc.blog/2021/10/09/counterfeit-shillings-of-george-iii-1816-1820-iv-a-contemporary-mould-revisited-gary-oddie/

To be fair, the chaos doesn't ever seem to subside. Sometimes you need to part ways with it for a while to regain the will to try and overcome it.

I found this interesting and some lovely hammered coins pictured: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2yerrqel7o

Sad news about Gary. I never met him but heard lots of good things about him. He was born in the town i reside in. I just dug my shilling out as this post had sparked my interest. Never even noticed it before but it's got a clear overdate. 1817 over 1820. That's something i have never seen in a counterfeit coin before.

Yes, Gary Oddie passed away quite recently. @seuk is Peter Poulsen. Most of his website text has been archived, but unfortunately none of the images: web.archive.org/web/20150825194438/http://www.steppeulvene.com/index.george_iii.html I hope he's alright.

Here is a lovely example of 5i that i found in the hydburn and ribble valley area whilst metal detecting

Many thanks Paddy and Coinery As far as records go – it appears money started to be officially defined by weight of metal in Iraq about 2,150 BC. The retreat from that definition perhaps started in Britain in 1914, when banks stopped changing notes for sovereigns. So understanding weight standards is basic to understanding what money was for 97% of its history. If you do not understand the weight standards, you just cannot understand the real history of money. That is why I think it is important. It is comforting to believe there are “a small number of academics willing to invest the time in this”, who are perhaps keeping an eye on the situation for us all. Indeed that was still sort of true 25 years back. But those guys were fighting a loosing battle then and anyhow, they are, as far as I can discover, all now dead. There are today way more professional academics than there ever were before. They generally refuse to discuss these matters, a sizeable sub-group will turn hostile and sarcastic if they are raised. I am afraid this seems a straightforward Cui Bono situation to me. The great majority of professional academics are paid by states, and all states have now adopted “managed money” - which they print at will. ‘He who pays the piper calls the tune’. I am an old guy myself now, and am pretty much fixed on a search for anyone at all out there who will try to understand these matters, and will stand up and debate them. I tried looking amongst professional academics. It was a poor plan. Am I really alone here in seeing the Curator of Coins at our British Museum holding a Charles I pound coin and saying “it is a pound weight in silver” ? All the Best Robert Tye PS in case of interest - for my series of videos on Youtube - look for “A History of Troy Weight” Playlist:

Unless his full name was Harold Trumpsson?

5 Cents Buffalo & 1884, 1923 Dollars 👍

Certainly.

Personally I'd lay the coin on the (transparent) ruler on the coin with the zero point at the coin's widest point. I'd also use the mm scale rather than inches.

I’m away this weekend, but great news that you can provide a weight…tbh measuring the dimensions of a coin with a plastic ruler is satisfactory enough for ID. In the early days I bought a fancy tool but, given the variable sizes for any given denomination, and that they are rarely round, the weight is generally sufficient, so it was never that useful. It may be useful with milled coinage, but rarely! Save your money and buy another coin instead!

A lovely coin Peckris 2. Mega apologies for the delay in response.

H i am new to the forum and not a coin collector beyond some old uk coppers i had from my grandfather 40 years ago and the odd silver uk coins i randomly bough tover the years, bu ti bought a job lot of jewelry at an auction (case and contents) and these were in the bottom, obviously i would like someone to tell me i won the lottery but i doubt this if the rest of the contents of the box are anything to go by! but beyond this i would like to know what they are as there are some interesting and old looking coins here the centre coin in top row is 20mm across many thanks

brilliant cheers Paddy i will have a look on there, just coming back with a quick update tried finding the "Hollandia" and i think you are correct but i can not find an exact match but some very close even the shape of the lions tail i had to give in on that (fo r now), you were bang on with the Srilankan (see attached) so thanks again for the pointers i will be continuing the quest in spare time and hopefully have updates in the future, I see you found them on the link (only just noticed the text by the link!) thanks again

Oh, that's a dangerous website. It makes me remember and think about Japanese mon, ichibu-gin and other such Meiji era coins 🤣 I really don't need _Another_ rabbit hole!

For the Asian coins I recommend this website: https://www.zeno.ru/index.php - far and away the most extensive resource on Asian coins. For example, I think the ones I suggested as Sri Lankan are similar to this: https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=371736&cat=3449&ppuser=&sortby=d&way=desc

Even so, it is worth now several times what you have paid and so it was a good investment 🙂

Items For Sale - now in the Members Only area.

Thanks, much appreciated!

I picked this up for about £200 over 20 years ago: I wouldn't rate it as a thousand pound coin but should be well over what I paid!

I hadn't realised GIV Crowns had got so high! This is my best, picked up about 15 years ago as part of an old family collection:

My chemistry classes and background beckon, and they say, well that it is an oxidant that chemically further oxidizes the surface for removal of the top layers of the coin. Ammonia does not react with the metal surfaces so would in fact be less aggressive.

London, Nicole?

Makes my Jim Bowen autograph pale into insignificance.

Just found an obituary for him i think so that's a no go on any further research. Passed away last February.