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I agree, it’s either die wear or very possibly the power of the strike, a reduced impact affecting the metal flow into the recesses of the die. Other detail such as the rocks and the lines on Britannia’s shield also seems reduced. I really don’t know who’s given her the finger though. Jerry

Yes, as Paddy has narrowed it down to, the Bristol coin is class 3cd, and it looks to me that the London coin is a class 10/11 mule, on account of the angle-backed C on the reverse. This is an excellent resource if you haven’t any books on the series. https://www.rodblunt.com/edwardian-pennies

Well done on your sorting! I hope you didn't give away the Crown Jewels to the charity shop! The Gothic Florins are a lovely design. Yours is pretty well worn, but you can still just make out the date as 1871. A nice souvenir.

Interesting one, as looks to have an error in the mint reading where the LON and DON have been swapped: DON LON IEN SIS instead of LON DON IEN SIS. Looks to be Edward I, class 3d.

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Eighteen years and I've found my third one in change today. Not a great looker though.

In case you come across anymore of these, the date is in Roman Numerals just behind Victoria's shoulder. You can just make out the lxxi at the end and can assume the rest. Worth knowing how to date them as some dates are much scarcer and more valuable than others.

This just sold at auction for 160,000 Swiss Francs, so I guess with commission just over that in pounds...Sorry no pictures here for now. Very rare and right up my alley but WAAAY out of my affordability range. I have the die module/trial for the reverse gotten some years ago but not nearly as exciting as this one.

Whilst sorting through others I found these mixed in as well, worth showing today, Rose & XII value mm. y & tun ( several bust varieties ) any comments or information greatly welcome. all the very best "H"

another worthy show of one of todays historical finds...boot fair circa 1990's some of the letters / numbers look miss shaped, letter I A have merged would this been due to the die being used when milled? any views & comments always welcome. 👍

Spotted that…not recorded in the Galata Guide.

Me with also trouble basic English syntax am having.

I think some have called that "skip" with the die slipping on strike...Something of that sort...Comes with a shelf-like appearance at the date and occasionally other devices.

Its been a day and a half.......this was a "Wow!" moment Have (amongst the hoard) have I found a full Groat? ok looking through Spink and....could it be .......Edward IV 1468-69 Groat? It would be the first! 👍

Another coin collector had a Looking at this, the verdict........ "it looks like an Edward IV 1st Reign groat of the Light Coinage issue (1464-70). No marks at neck, mint mark crown on the obverse. London mint." 🎉 Happy Happy Happy!!!!

I have started a new page of Hammered coins, I have the penny's (halved) with all the information stored with them, lower down are the ones that are to rubbed to gain any further information on them.. however Ive kept them and one the hoard is finished sorting I can sit back and figure out what's their future... following on the better of the group are possibly Edward 1 Penny, the second one is City of London, as for the first...ISTO ? Class? All and any input greatly welcome, regards "H"

It's always good to learn. We all do, albeit mostly through mistakes, not having gone to the effort of preparing ourselves adequately for the items in question. It is always helpful to acquire a few higher grade items in your areas of interest as well as being cleanly and clearly struck. If correctly identified, then you can use those as a reference for the various design features you need to check to drill down into the sub-type. Don't be afraid of spending decent money on a good coin. It doesn't suddenly become a 50p lucky dip item worth nothing just because you paid more than you normally would.

I sent an email to the developers and they said there were many issues with Invision forums and listed a whole range of the causes - one of them was the rich text issue which you fixed, but there were several others some of which were very technical and beyond my understanding! However, they did suggest trying another browser, so I went back to my Chromium browser for predec (I also use it for banking as it doesn't involve the very irritating 2FA thing where you have to get a 6 digit code on your phone).

Isn't it nice that we have someone on here with some nice inherited coins lol

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Hah, I honestly didn’t mind, Chris…gave me my biggest smile of the day so far. 😆

Michael Gouby was selling the Type 4 and 5 1992s for about £60 in EF. So I guess somewhere between £30 and £50 would be reasonable. I think the 2006 is rarer than either of those. I've got about 20 type 4s and maybe a dozen type 5 - not EF condition you understand. They are much more common though.

I love this kind of thing. Modern rarities that no one is bothered about because there is little financial incentive to look, they involve a little effort to understand and spot and because they haven't been exposed in the Sun or on dodgy click-bait tabloid websites. I hate that side of decimal collecting, plus all of the deliberate misleading crap and even fakes on eBay over the years.... remember the dateless mule 20p, when people were actually grinding off the date of normal ones and attempting to pass them off as 'dateless'! How many 2006 10p's do you think you've actually seen in total? 2006 was a massive mintage at 118m+, so it would seem the type A die(s) were for whatever reason, just used for a tiny fraction of that total. Even if it was for a million coins, it's still under 1% of the 2006 total. All these years later and finding a stunning example will be very hard (as you know!), like finding a decent 1807 slave trade £2 with no DG initials (i.e. the circ only variant). They may well be rarer than the Kew 50p. Might even be comparable with the mule 2016 £1 coin with the tiny 2017 dates on the reverse - and surely more of those should exist in the wild but a magnifying glass is needed to even see it.

Wow, that's great to find out, thank you, I did have to read up on Mule meaning I have read before and so this is a Error coin A mule coin is a type of error coin that features a combination of designs from two different coins, typically due to a mistake during minting. Wow.. this is very interesting to also learn. many thanks for all the time taken, its going to be an interesting few weeks as these still need to be worked through.....

You're magically an enthusiast now. The expert grader old rank was always there. No idea why they need to have 2 now.

I'm using Chromium instead of Firefox, and so far - touch wood - it seems to be working normally with my abbreviations.

This one is indeed a penny. Third coinage, mintmark lion, bust 3i

If it had liv as the last three characters, it would have been worth a couple hundred pounds, or whatever someone was willing to pay, even in that condition

Not my area, as you know by now, but the ISTO must be Bristol mint? Not listed as substantially scarcer than any others. From the Spink book, I think that means it must be one of the Class 2 or 3 variations.

circa 1300, Medieval Spanish Hammered Silver Coin👍

9 badges now!! Just 'Milk Monitor' to get and I have the set!! And yes, Kylie is still in the top ten....

New forum software feature. You have 6 badges, well done 🤭

Well I had a lovely weekend sorting and donating lots of coins to various places 😊 the sorting was made so much easier thanks to this forum! I've learnt loads from reading through the many posts. Charity shops were happy to accept the old foreign coins which was great. I also sold a few bits and bobs to some small antique shops. I hope someone else can find those coins now and start or continue their own shiny collection 🙂 I've saved a select handful of coins for myself to enjoy. I've kept this extremely well worn but very beautiful (if I've got my identification right here) gothic florin. What an awesome font that would have been once upon a time!

It's some kind of 'Conder' regional token, almost certainly a halfpenny. Date appears to be 1791. That's probably a sheep fleece in the coat of arms and it's probably a bishop on the other side - someone will know what town that makes it! Unless you can read anything off it.

Firstly, all short cross pennies have the name HENRICVS on the obverse even though they cover the reigns of Henry II, Richard, John and Henry III. The coins are divided into eight classes using a number of distinguishing factors and thereby into date and king order. Short cross pennies are my main field of interest so I'll have a go: The first reverse reads AN.ON.NO That and the style of the portrait means it can only be Iohan (moneyer), Norwich (Mint), so Class 5, circa 1206-7, King John. I'm not sure of the sub-class, but the obverse letters (EX together and type of X) would indicate 5b1 or 5b3) as possiblilies.The full reverse legend would be +IOHAN.ON.NOR The second is a bit more difficult, but I think it reads ERD:ON:C (at first I thought it was ERN, but that doesn't make sense). That would make the moneyer and mint Roberd, Canterbury. The colons either side of ON mean that it is almost certainly class 4a* under King Richard. The full reverse legend would be +ROBERD:ON:CAN The third is much more difficult. The reverse legend is OR+ and that's about all I can read, so you have the last two letters of the mint. That would indicate Norwich or Northampton mints. The obverse portrait indicates an early type, so class 1,2 or 3, which rules out Norwich. So I'd say it's Northampton, which also rules out class 2. I think that the mint signature of NOR limits the possible moneyers to Reinald, Walter, Willelm, Ravl or Roberd. I think the first letter of the moneyer could be a W or R, which won't help. The forth is long cross and not really my field of interest, although I do have a few in my collection.

Paddy and others, try dragging an image into a post. Should work now. Here's one such image: (That's a still from a Blue Peter episode where they used 2 of my coin images in a Penny Farthing Bicycle feature - earned me a Blue Peter badge!)

Well the mintmark (above the ‘C’ of CIVITAS ) looks as though it might be a cross pattee, or at least the leg of an expanding cross. This would rule out Richard III, but it could still be Edward IV, Henry V etc- though I haven’t looked into further detail. Jerry

Henry VI Pinecone-Mascle halfpenny of Calais. 1431-2

Wonder if it's to do with the manual entry of the last two digits. Until you have an impression it is very difficult to see if the alignment is correct. Once you have a mark you may well find it needs a little sideways or rotational adjustment.