Chris Perkins

Obverse 1 was used exclusively from 1770-73. Obverse 2 was used 1774 and 1775. Peck says: Obv 2 differs from Obv 1 in that the nose is straighter, the eye lashes are accentuated, the lips are thinner, and the chin is more receeding.

http://www.predecimal.com/forsale/7/shilling1787.jpg I have that one, which I've graded AVF for £30.00.

So was everyone else, that's why it's so expensive I expect. And that seller bought the 'Lord' title for credibility.

At Mr Steve Quirk's house (Hello Steve, I know you'll never read this) I have a pile from floor to ceiling in his bedroom. He also has a brand new Triumph TR7 front spoiler in his shed, a set or 2nd hand twin Triumph carburetters and 5 alloy wheels! Richard has a few 1000 late bronze coins a box of copper, some silver and a couple of sovereins. Neils Mum has the Churchill crowns. (I'll try to avoid her!)

Mostly silver bullion, and lots of mainly modern (60's) stuff from various friends houses in mint sealed bags. To be honest, if got so much in friends houses I've forgetten what's there!

Actually, next visit to the UK i'll be going by boat in a car because I have to pick lots of coins up. I try my best.

Yes: Collectors Early Milled Collectors George III Collectors Coins Great Britain

That looks good Jmd, I especially like the idea of it matching with the Collectors Coins 1797-2004. In the end all 3 can match and will cover 1656 - 2004.

i got one of those on ebay for about a fiver I think. The latest edition is not all that expensive, I wouldn't pay £30.00 for the old one.

Ah bless you Oli. I'm certainly kept busy.

I did notice the surname Oli, thought that was coincedence enough!

There are benefits with both vocations. Shoveling coal all day would probably be healthier (if you were able to not breath the dust all day), i'd finish and start work at fixed times and get the same amount of money every week. I never did much like the idea of physical graft though.

Why you little. I don't know where tomorrows bread and dripping will be coming from! When I get your latest cheque Jmd, I'll be able to buy some new socks and perhaps reat myself to a newspaper.

Well that's very ambitious of you Jmd, for someone who has yet to receive his first CII coin! But, you know I like to get everyone involved, so if you're ready and willing you can help on it (if and when it happens).

I think Mr Gouby's attempted grading reforms are interesting, and i'm sure they work. Thing is, when novices have learnt the 'traditional' system, there really is no need to learn another (apart from if you want to buy coins from America). I don't like being fixed to just F, VF, EF, UNC, so with my grading I use a lot of 'N', 'A' and 'G'. I just feel comfortable like that, as coins are not often bang on a grade, and those Gouby '?'s do look funny.

Yes, I would imagine something like Cromwell to GII.

Australia didn't have it's own currency (apart from gold) until 1910. Up to then British money was legal tender, so it can only be a British one.

Aaron, This is all I do! With Rotographic.co.uk and the odd coin fair and I make the odd face to face sale. As a matter of fact, where I spend a lot of time in Germany there is an Australian chap who lives nearby. He's one of my best customers actually. Have a look on www.xe.com for exchange rates.

Iv'e spoken to Sylvester about just the same! I need to really concentrate on getting the current titles into PDF form before I do new titles. I have actually been talking to none other than my own father about doing a Collectors price guide to British military medals, Boer war (1899) to now. He's into those you see.

Although it's obviously much rarer than a normal one I find that irregular shaped error coins don't really carry much of a premium. Error collectors tend to prefer coins that are struck on the wrong metal, or with the wrong allignment, or on the wrong blank etc. It would be much more sought after if it was in better condition. To be honest, I wouldn't price it much higher than a normal one of that grade.

They use blank round bits that are struck with the dies. I did have an irregular shaped Young Head victorian 3d once, It was not in great condition and I just sold it for the normal price. I'm in Germany.

GF = Good Fine, in other words a little better than fine. Take no notice of me saying that Fine being the first truly collectable condition, that's just the case with many modern British coins. In fact for anything post 1930 some would say that EF or even UNC is the first truly collectable condition! GEF = A Good Extremely Fine, so a little better than EF. It does not mean between Good and Extremely Fine, becasue that's very wide! I do mention about the preceeding G, N and A grades here: http://www.predecimal.com/coingrading.htm

You send them to me for appraisal and offer like a lot of previously happy people! Although if they are detector finds they are unlikely to be worth big money.

From my point of view scanning/photographing coins is a drag. Scanning with a good scanner at 300dpi/100% size is ok because you can scan a whole 'A4' of coins, them turn them all over and scan the other side. Then of course, you have to create new images with the correct obverse and reverse. Lately, i'm looking for ways to save time and be more streamlined, and I often wish I didn't have to make images of so many coins. But, I always like to have as many pictures as possible because it really helps sell the coins quicker. On the point of do pictures do coins justice...Often they don't, in fact often they look awful and if that's the case and the coin is valuable enough to warrant the time then I'll use my Nikon digital camera instead. Pictures can also make the coins look better on some occasions, so a good description and a returns policy are compulsary.

Peter, That's a better picture, less space around it is generally good! Those 9 people are rotters aren't they...Although, it could have been the same person 9 times! I'm afraid in that condition the threepence will have little or no collectable value. It's just a rather charming small piece of old sterling silver with that damage. Collectors only want the better examples, and 1887 Threepences are pretty easy to come by even in high grades. If it did get that shape during production perhaps someone will want it, but I can't really tell from the picture. The rim could have just been squashed a little.