Chris Perkins

This one was also free, providing a keep the invision link at the bottom. I'm not happy with creating a little out of the way forum in the nothing to do with coins area, because that isn't strictly true. The subject matter of most of the books is very much to do with coins. And I don't want to set up a new one because of the time it takes to get these things established. I'll think of a way of integrating the two sites into one forum :s. It won't suddenly go pear shaped for you lot, so son't worry. When have I ever let you down?

But you lot need to have nothing to do with the book questions, if there are any. Essentially it will be the same forum and we'll still get the same kinds of people asking the same kinds of coin questions. At this stage I'll at least link to this forum from rotographic.co.uk, and perhaps I'll create another forum especially for the books. I suppose I ought to get the bloody things finished first! At this stage I must admit that I'm embarrassed about the current CCGB2004. The banknotes/Irish and Roman tend to be printed to a higher quality, and I can live with those, but do you know I almost cringe everytime I send a CCGB2004 to someone, hoping it won't put them off buying my very own 2005 book!!

I would make sure that not only the books were talked about, the fact that this forum as it is contains very little talk about books would back that up. I'd re shuffle it well so that it basically included the exact same sections as it does now, plus a book discussion area. I thought about creating and linking to a sub forum, but then anyone registering would just be registering on the main forum like everyone else. I could set up a completey new forum, but then it would just be boring until the volume of posts got up to a respectable level, which would take 6 mths to a year. Here, I have instant posts by the 1000. Whatever I decide, I do think that a forum for visitors of rotographic.co.uk will be useful.

I was thinking about changing the look and name of this whole forum to be the 'Rotographic Forum' and linking to it from www.rotographic.co.uk and from predecimal.com as it is now. I thought that perhaps a discussion forum would benefit the people that are looking for books on the subject, and I could eventually re shuffle things and perhaps provide forums for each book title, in order to get input and just for people to discuss that subject. Essentially it would be the same place on the same URL, but it would be the 'Rotographic forum, hosted by Predecimal'. I think it can only compliment the Rotographic website, and help promote the books to people that would perhaps prefer to have a little chat with one of us friendly lot. What do you think?

My uncle Peter got married in the national maritime Museum last weekend. I used to live not far from there, and uncle Peter is about the only member of the family that still lives where we 'came from'. Oh well, that was obviously nothing to do with the coin, but it does seem like we have an answer for Daniel. Thanks Kuhli, very well done.

If you register here, you can post them within this discussion.

I'm not! I was much rather hoping you lot would do the cover, and you're doing just fine. I hear what Geoff is saying about having a variety of coins, including a modern one on the front cover. I also understand that aethetically perhaps just one or two coins would be better than cluttering the cover with more. I like the Gothic florin covers....Nothing to do with the coin, it just looks good with one single large coin on the front. What about some kind of design with 2 coins overlapping, with perhaps a Cartwheel twopenny reverse in the foreground to represent where the book starts, and a 'New pence' twopenny reverse just behind it to represent this years ridiculous modern rumour? Perhaps both images could be the same size as that would look better.

Edward, are you ok with a 2mb email attachment? I could email it.

It works ok for me. I've deleted it, and re uploaded it just now.

Thankyou very much, I'll check it out and I'm sure I'll be using stuff. I've already taken your halfpenny, posted above!

Oh yes, that thing will be going, I just haven't got around to doing the foreword/contents/introduction kind of pages yet. The list is useful for novices, I'll try to squeeze it in somewhere, but it does look like a contents page, when it isn't! And you're right about the dates, I actually didn't mean to go back that far, but seem to have gotten carried away! I wanted it to overlap into GIII, but not to cover it all. I want to carry on with the Collectors George III Coins book, and with your help, create a really wonderful volume on GIII alone. I originally wanted to start at 1800 with silver, and 1797 with copper. I'll change the next version to scrub those carried away 3d's!

I think so, but it will affect the cost. I'll get some sample stuff done at the printers soon, perhaps the bronze/copper section as a mini book, as that bit is already done. Regardless of the extra cost I would very much like to have a colour image on the cover.

Sylvester: Do that on a white background, ink costs money! Edward: I like to think there are differences between the best way to market things to a UK audience, compared to a US one. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps we respond to exactly the same things, but personally I deplore some US style marketing, the kind we see increasingly on cheap cable tv/shopping channels these days. I don't need a Chi energy machine, nor do a want a ball that rolls around the kitchen floor by itself, cleaning at the same time (yes, we have those dubbed adverts in Germany) and that kind of advert makes me deliberately want to do all I can to not by things advertised that way. So the books will stay as damned well British as I can keep them...Even if it involves obsessive nit picking

Yes, that's pretty good, but would a regular reader know it was 'CC'? I'd like to move away from the old fashined image, I suppose I need to stick my toe in the water and just try something without worrying to much about it.

I agree with Oli about the shadowed lettering. Makes it look a bit superman, if you know what I mean. I like Aethelreds blue/white attempts and I think Sylvester's needs some attention! This is all good, perhaps I'll pick a few of the best and either use one, or use the basic ideas. Haven't decided yet.

Like your Led Zep signature Aethelred, one of my most favourite bands.

Yes of course, looks like a fake shilling...(23mm, more like sovereign size, but brass fake shillings are very common)

That's certainly 3,000,000 times better than the current cover!

Yes, I got a CD from the good doctor myself and thought I'd market it properly. £20 including postage to forum members. Dr Sriro sends them out himself (he's in the US).

I don't, but I have a few. Have you seen this on my website, it's fantastic, and more up to date than D&H: http://www.predecimal.com/books/condor_tokens.htm (it's in the book section, that's just the frame)

No, it's brass, and would have originally been silvered to be passed off as a Half Crown. No one would ever have accepted a very light Half Crown sized gold coin, which would have been an ovbious fake. People would have been more likely to accept a sligtly underweight Half Crown.

Thanks, I could certainly make use of that. What I will probably do at some point in ask you lot if you kind find certain images for me to use. I can find most from my own images or from using Colin Cookes, but there will be others I will need, I'm sure.

For a start it's not a £5.00 coin, only modern (from 1990) Crowns were made legal tender for £5.00. Until then they were 5 shillings, or 25p. If it's in mint condition it'll be worth about £1, if not then face value 25p.

I expect it was the front page headline, in such a sleepy Northern city

Happy birthday Geoff! Where would we be without our very own 'Father of the forum'? Thanks for all your input over the months, and I'm sure I speak for us all in wishing you a rather good Birthday.