Chris Perkins

I have nearly 500, but I'm selling them to Motor cyclists as parts at the moment!

Stranger things have happened. Right, when I'm an excentic millionaire, I'll set it up and recruit you both.

What a wonderful idea, we could have special uniforms and be like, the coin police! Arresting people left right and centre for asking stupid questions, storing their coins in sweaty PVC, and collecting Isle of Man Cat coins among other very serious offences. We could even confiscate whole collections that were not being taken care of properly, and put them into a home!

I suppose, in Germany, how on earth would a German police man (and they do all have moustaches!) know what was a real Anne farthing, and what wasn't! But even in the UK I've never heard of anyone getting prosecuted for having demonetized forgeries. I even had my case checked once at Stansted by customs, it had at least 8 forgeries in it. I just explained I was a coin dealer taking this lot to a London coin fair, and they waved me on.

I have some photos of Irish farm animal patterns, other designs that were considered for the first modern Irish coinage, and some look far better than the designs they stuck with. I suppose taste must change over time. Talking of Irish coins I found a 1943 Half Crown yesterday in Fine, one of only an estimated 400, as they were recalled to be melted down (they were .750 silver) and they were replaced with cu-ni coins. Actually, the horse on the back of that isn't too bad. But yes, I do like the South Afriacan Springbok (isn't that the correct animal name?) on my 1947 ZAR proof 5 Shilling coin (soon to appear in the colonial section).

I think if you can show that you had no intent in passing them off as the real things (ie they are part of a collection) then the law enforcement angencies would be very unlikely to persue the matter, especially with old, non legal, non precious metal coinage. It would just cost too much to bother with. It is a very unclear area though. I have quite a few old forgeries; Queen Anne - George VI (Mostly GIII) and find them facinating. I know some people even collect modern fake £1 coins. Now that would be touch and go if you were caught with 50 of them!

I'm normally ok, with 'kind of worn'. I find it usually indicates a grade somewhere below fine. I expect it'll turn out to be a halfpenny, as lots of halfpennies ended up in British American colonies at that time. Some were even forged there.

Alright, alright, but it was a better atempt than our friend with the 'silver coin'.

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If I wanted to sell a pocket watch I would go into detail about what metal it was, shape, size, if it has a lid or not, the type of hands, the type of numbers, chain type, and of course most importantly the makers marks on the back if present. Even for someone who knows nothing about anything, that was very feeble, I'm sure you'll agree. And I never pass them by, you do get worthwhille things offered sometimes.

Trust me man, grass doesn't make green smoke!

Well, they used the web form on my 'Coin bits for old bobs' page, so I must assume that the person wants to exchange the mystery coin for collecting accessories or books. Although people like that just use the first form they come across, so you're right, I don't know if they want to sell it, exchange it, or even buy one!

Good point Geoff, but I'm far to gulliable to have even thought about that. And I'm far too busy to have thought about the latter. Right, if I find out it was any of you lot!

Someone sent me a message, hoping to sell me a coin. I thought I'd post it here, because it has to be about the most detailed articulate and concise coin offer I ever received!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <*********@yahoo.com> To: <cp@predecimal.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Coin bits for old bobs > Predecimal.com Contact form. It was submitted by > (*********@yahoo.com) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 at 11:33:50 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > message: one small silver coin a face with inscription on one side and a man sitting with a lance on the other. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This was my reply, I don't know why I bother. I should have just deleted the message. I waste my time on these everyday. Well that's useful info thanks!! How on earth am I supposed to know what you are talking about with feeble details like that??? How big is it? What does the writing say? Where is it from? What date? That's like trying to sell a car by saying in a newspaper ad: 'Red car for sale, with steering wheel' !!! Chris Perkins www.predecimal.com

You had an offer for something that you don't know anything about! I must assume you have pictures in that case, as it's difficult to sell something when you don't know what it is. Can you register and post them here or email them to me (particularly the Guinea), and I think Sylvester will want to see it too. cp@predecimal.com

I've seen fantasy gold modern restrike Gothic coins recently. They were not quite as good as the original, but they were bloody close, I can tell you. I have 'Fantasy' coins, wouldn't give bullion worth for them!

That sounds like it may be a barrel of laughs!

Oi, don't you start giving the nice chaps in here any ideas!

Yes, the 53's are awful, that's why they re engraved things in '54, sharpish. (At first I didn't intend that pun, but there you go, I'll throw it in fee!)

Well, no, not really, just what goes into it changed! Or did it? So surely a 5p is still a shilling, is it?? The Govt will only let us vote on the Euro when they are sure they cannot loose!

Even the very rare 1934 Wreath saw circulation, I handled one that was worn to AEF. I think although they were given as gifts, the fact that they were made by the thousand and as far as I know were not specialy housed, like the 1935 commem, or the 1927 Proof, then surely they are not strictly speaking commemoratives. I don't think the modern commens will ever be as sought after as a good ole Wreath. Ignore Sylvester, and contact me personally, I always give the best prices to forumees!

Yes of course, but if you take the basic currency as the Pound (and it's forerunners) then our currency is much older. But you're right of course, decimal put a stop to the real ancient currency in '71.

I suppose it also depends on how many are out there. It's all very well stating the mintages left right and centre...But how many were melted down later on, lost at sea, buried in the ground, or found their way down the back of antique sofas etc. The rarity is a rough measure of how many are out there, and that, in the case of Extremely Rare and the commoner, is not really all that important, because they could probably never all be accounted for anyway. Well done on your extremely rare coin Sylvester, I think the 1868 Cu-Ni Proof that I got from Dan is also R3.

I just put them on today, I can see that 250 subscribers have viewed them from the newsletter, but nothing yet. The last 1931 I had, got snapped up in a jiffy.

Well I imagine every publication is slightly different. In 'The English Silver Coinage since 1649' by Rayner, and published by Spink, it says: C3 Extremely common C2 Very Common C Commom N Normal, neither scarce or common (Hmmmm!!???) S Scarce R Rare R2 Very Rare R3 Extremely Rare R4 11-20 examples known R5 5-10 examples known R6 3-4 examples known R7 1 or 2 examples known. I think Very Rare must be a mintage of around 1000 or less, because the 1934 Crown is R2 (mintage 932). So perhaps Extremely Rare is 30-100, and maybe Very rare is 101-1000, or something like that.