David, Yes that's pretty much the way it went for me. But what can you do, Ebay are the bigest and therefore are likely to get the best prices for your items, and also provide the best bargains for buyers. Since that moment I have listed only 3 items on ebay, when at one stage I was doing 20 a week. I have fortunately seen busy times with the website the last couple of weeks, probably due to Christmas so am putting my energy into that. Right now the accessory sales on the site are rising as are the visitors and I don't need bloody ebay at this moment! The website took 3 years to get to what it is now, so unfortunately that option my not be good for everyone. Chris www.predecimal.com