Chris Perkins

I found this very interesting today. This came with a load of other coins and had a label stating it was a Philip and Mary Groat with portrait of Mary only. I thought nothing of it at first because it's not in great condition, but on closer inspection the shield and cross looked wrong. On even closer inspection the legends also looked wrong - what's left of them. In fact, for a P&M groat they are totally wrong. It took me quite a while doing detective work (hammered aren't my thing really), trying to work out what it says after the very clear 'PHILIP' and on the back between the arms of the cross. There are a lot of tooling marks on the shield and the faint bust of Mary. As my eyes tuned-in better to the writing style of those days it gradually became clearer with a lot of googling that the reverse actually reads ...NOME DNI BENEDICTVM, which led me in a French direction and eventually helped decipher the obverse which instead of reading PHILIP Z MARIA, actually reads PHILIPP DEI G D BVRG Z COM FLAND.... It's Philip Duke of Burgundy (1384 - 1404) and the coin is a Flanders Groot (groat) which should look like the coin posted in the comments. Someone at some stage, at least 150 years later and for whatever reason, has filed off what should be on the obverse (a lion with a flag) and has replaced it with a scratched out effigy of Mary in order to masquerade it as an English groat. That's a lot of effort to go to on a piece of silver that would have probably been readily accepted as cash at the time in its original form! Why?

Yes it can be, but these are real. Another has also come to light but I haven't seen it yet so can't confirm 100%. I suspect they struck a lot like this with wrong alignment.

A new discovery, confirmed by me (I have one) and with 2 other confirmed examples known. 2015 Britannia £2 with die alignment out about 100 degrees. There must be more out there. http://www.checkyourchange.co.uk/2015-britannia-2-incorrect-alignment/

Got these. Open to offers. http://www.predecimal.com/british-predecimal-coins-double-florins-c-51_32_34.html

Looks similar to mine, but the images are very small. I have mine hanging on the wall now, never found out anything else about it!

Interesting. Those links seem to work for me fine. How is it now?

Forum is fine now, but the ads are still on the main site! At least they are for me. Dave and Stuntman, do you see the ads on the predecimal.com homepage?

I first saw the silly ad things last Thursday and thought they were am malware problem on my PC. I asked the hosts, he could see no sign of them, so I went to GB for 5 days and thought nothing more of it, until I heard from Nordle the yesterday! It seems it wasn't a local thing at all. I asked the hosts again today and at first they found nothing, but after a proper look there seems to be malicious code on the server which was causing them. £150 later and they seem to be gone from the forum. Is everyone else ad-free now? To me they still appear on the main predecimal.com pages, but work is ongoing.

Can someone post a link to the coin in question please.

Can someone post a link to the actual 1836 Half Crown on ebay, I can't find it. Are you sure it's Mr Platt's coin? Martin Platt is on fb a lot and I often run into him (in a nice way!). He's actually very helpful on there, not only to lots of people with the usual questions, but he's also been a big help to me with various pictures I've needed in the past, among other things. I have no doubt that the Yell reviews are all genuine reviews.

No. I'm just relaying the content of a BNTA email recently received. I thought it can't help to have it on the internet either. If 2 or more are offered in the same grades, it's probably quite a coincidence!

The following coins, all graded and in NGC slabs have gone missing from Fedex Stansted this week. If offered these coins, please contact Stephen Fenton on 020 7930 7888 and mention that you saw this info here: 1911 Half Sovereign PF63 Cameo 1911 Sovereign PF63 Cameo 1937 Half Sovereign PF64 1937 Sovereign PF66 Cameo 1937 Two Pounds PF65 1911 Two Pounds PF66 Ultra Cameo 1937 Five Pounds PF65 1785 Guinea MS63 1786 Guinea MS63 1799 Guinea MS62

Where?

I seem to remember a few years ago when London coins had some kind of Investment Portfolio thing (with a different name) selling slabbed PCGS coins. There was a membership fee which was refunded after a certain sum of coins was purchased. I'd amassed nearly that sum buying things for a client and then they stopped it and started CGS and slabbing them themselves. I asked about the membership fee, if the total credit could be passed on etc. Got a reply weeks later after a further email saying 'No'. Absolutely terrible customer service, always. And now this happens, which looks very similar to me. Not a good show at all, and all the £99 and £499 subscriptions fees smack of desperation to me.

That was fiddly. Kept getting 403 errors too. I've managed to change the sig and your website URL.

Yes, saw that Peter. A few years ago and no pic, which is a shame.

Anyone familiar with these? I know that some dated 1776 were made in the USA and are quite sought after. This one is, I suspect, a British made '1776'?

This is a rare one from what I can tell, and well above average condition for its ilk. Atkins 451 'DUKE OF YORK' / 'FARTHING 1756'. Has a ticket with it indicating it was bought from Lickey as GVF in Sep 1972 for £3.

Yes, that's a pain that is. Another problem is the edge knocks.

The Magna Carta £2 coins are starting to appear in circulation. Dated 2015, so rather late, but they feature the 5th portrait of the Queen. The ones in last years BU sets have the IRB 4th portrait of the Queen and seeing as they won't be making any more 2015 BU sets, all of the 2015 Magna Carta with 5th portrait will soon end up totally knackered and I predict that in the future they will be harder to find in really nice UNC or better condition - same as the 1999 standard reverse £2 is now impossible to find in nice condition (it never found its way into sets either). Problem is, even from mint sealed bags they are already mostly in a right state before they even leave Welsh air!

Selling either of them BigJohnny?

Sorry to the original poster. I'm going to hide this topic until I can work out why I can't close it to further comments.

Where has he been trolling you and splashing your name here and on Facebook?

I don't care what goes on on other forums or anywhere on the internet, apart from here. And I really don't see a problem here. Apart from the fact that I don't seem to be able to close this topic!

I've removed address details. Whoever Mynki is, I don't think he's ever caused an issue here. Has anyone else (apart from Dave) ever had any issue with Mynki? Stopping this thread though right now before it gets personal again.