Chris Perkins

I've upgraded the forum, how is it now?

Hmmm. I've just notified the website host man to see if he can shed any light.

Yes, but as jacinbox was first to register an interest, can we see what he says first?

£50 inc recorded postage is fine by me.

Thanks Colin. So £50 then jacinbox? Lots of lustre, well worth that I think (and if you disagree you can return it).

Oh yes, I'm with you now!

It does read like 25p but I think he meant .25 of a pee. 0.0025.

Yes, that bit needs changing doesn't it! OMG.

I was hoping for more than face, if I'm honest.

Not bad is it. It's for sale of course. What's fair?

I always make a point of putting 1953 farthings aside to check properly later. And discovered this one today. A 2+A in high grade with good lustre. Loss of lustre on the high parts, old finger print traces on rev. I bet PCGS would call it MS something RB. It's GEF though, surely. Sorry about the quick phone pics.

Ok. I can't remember how long I had that. Big coincidence that I'd found it a couple of days before you posted this topic.

As the potential seller here I'll be honest and say that GV (normal dates) aren't really that hot at the moment. That isn't to say they won't be at some point in the future and I'd say that the highest possible grades are not only the best to buy (they won't be making any more) for reasons previously covered, but they are also much easier to sell should you need to. It won't always mean a profit in 10+ years, but they will at least be easy to move on and if bought carefully I think in the event of a loss it will be very minimal. Just buy what you like the look of and if you receive something that you are not comfortable with, send it back. Any half decent dealer will take things back without taking offence.

No coin dealer would react badly if you were to write and make an offer on something, that's usually the way things are sold in a live environment, so I don't see why it should be different online. A lot of my coins sell quite quickly, but for those that have been sitting for a while I'd gladly accept a reasonable offer. Which one do you mean?

I wonder if they're selling the ones that people have returned (which may not be entirely legal as they are 2nd hand)? I've got a £50 coin that I had to buy in order to do pics for the book. No one will even give me £43 for it now. I'll see if I can send it back the RM.

It should show the images, but saying that I'm not quite sure how it works on a kindle with a non-colour display like those paperwhite ones.

I've got one of those, chanced upon it the other day. It's 1/2lb and '13 Wellgate Dundee 1876' on the other side. £5 and it's yours (inc post).

Yes, that's fine by me. Perhaps show and tell and then the topic closed to further comments even?

There have certainly been coins in the past that were advertised with a fixed mintage limit and that limit was later raised, I assume because the particular coin was selling better than anticipated.

Standard BU coin in pack is £10 and I think the silver proof coloured version is £55 (and isn't available currently). The RM will make as many as they have demand for.

People are certainly speculating, but more on the ability to sell for more on ebay when the coin sells out.

Don't think I saw it! It's just my opinion of course. If the RM say it was deliberately sans denomination then no one can ever prove otherwise.

I know Rob, it was a bit tongue in cheek. They have no control over 2nd hand coin prices, especially ones from circulation, but I do sometimes feel that the odd error/anomaly that seems to occur certainly doesn't do them any harm. I think it's possible that a lot of new customers may have ended up buying RM products after the whole fiasco with the mule 2008 20p and the later problem coins that came to light after see them selling for enormous prices (enormous asking prices usually, selling prices are of course quite different!). All these things get reported in the media and talked about a lot and I know lots of people that seem to think buying new coin products new is a good investment. There were companies (that like to pretend to be a 'mint' or in some way associated with a mint) selling mule circulation 20p's in special boxes with certificates that they printed themselves... some even offered the mule 20p as a gold plated ltd edition and I think a lot of people can't really tell the difference between the RM and other sellers of hyped up new coins (from a business practice point of view there are actually very few differences!) Many even speculate on new coin products hoping for a low mintage when the mintage figures are released a couple of years later, or hoping for an error or something out of the ordinary. People have become so obsessed with potential RM errors that some even make a big fuss about spelling mistakes on the accompanying packaging/literature. Many don't really understand the nature of the errors/anomalies. The whole thing with the IRB no denomination Battle of Britain 50p for example.... it's common because they made thousands of sets and they'll always be available, but it's been talked about a lot because of the missing denomination and I bet even the suggestion that it was some kind of oversight caused more people to buy them than perhaps would have done so normally.

I don't see how a coin can be made with no denomination and be called 'deliberate', especially as they had a suitable obv that they could have used (the one which had 'FIFTY PENCE' under the Queen in smaller letters). It was a cock up and they're pulling the wool over out eyes. Is a coin with no marked denomination actually legally even a coin? Or it actually was deliberate and was done to try and make the coins more interesting, create more hype and sell more of them. But I doubt that on this occasion. They cocked up.

It was the same work experience boy that allowed them to produce a 50p without a denomination, then a different one for silver/gold proof before finally doing one that they could actually circulate.