Chris Perkins

The rules are: Don't list anything over graded, badly described, with fraudulent hopes, dodgy in any way. In other words, don't make it look like eBay! Nothing non numismatic either, it's not bric-a-brac. Try to keep it to items valued from £1 - £100. I know a lot of the members, so if anyone isn't sure about the credentials of a seller, please ask me. I provide no gaurantee, all risks are down to the buyers and sellers involved in the transactions. I know you lot are all very sensible, but if I do see anything and think to myself 'You can't do that' or 'Bloody hell!' then it'll be removed. I'm very flexible as you know.

That'll be Lockdales, and in my experience they are bad! I sent some things to them to be put in there auction (not coins) and 2 items vanished off the planet. I'm not sure, but I bet they happened to be the 2 most valuable items! They have been most unhelpful and I'm about to write a letter to their manager. Send the coin to the Royal Mint, they will take an age confirming it, but you will get it back and it will come back with written proof either way. And of course they are not dealers so will be neutral. Dr Kevin Clancy is the man at the mint.

Yes I do that too sometimes, although it can be time consuming. If someone can invent a programme that takes 2 scans/images of say 20 coins per image, revs on one, obvs on the other, and detects the coin and matches each of the 20 revs with the correct obvs (from about the same relative position) then I'd be the first customer!

Is your gimp any better than having to cut the rev out and paste it in a space next to the obv? I wish I could find a program that did that automatically!

I imagine it's the same with British coins.

I don't know any that are absolutely confirmed as real errors and not cleverly hollowed and stuck together coins.

How did you acheive the plain black backgrounds?

And thanks for buying my book Bob!

Fab, but no where near EF.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=8358959398 Buy a CAC coin! Clearly they don't have that particular slang word over there.

Ok. It's now set to your house name with a capital for the first letter and without the word 'House'!

Have you forgotten your password DAS?

So what we gonna do about it? (without naming names and getting sued all the way to Westminster )

You're absolutely right. There's far too much of it, and most of it claims to commemorate things that shouldn't need to be commemorated with a coin! All it is, is a good revenue generator for the RM. As soon as the masses started collecting coins in the 60's, the mints of the world thought 'Hang on a min, we can cash in on this'. So at first they made annual proof sets instead of just for coronations, jubilees and new coinages. That went ok through the 70's, and then they stepped things up a bit, a crown for 1977, fair enough it was a jubilee year (although it was made is huge numbers). Then another for '80 (not warranted), another for '81 (not warranted). Then they kept a steady pace until about the mid-late 90's when it all went barmy and they issue 1-5 new coins annually marking the most ridiculous things. And none of them are going to increase in value more than inflation (apart from errors like the '83 New 2p etc). This is a copy of a rather sad email I got yesterday: Hi We have been purchasing the Battle of Trafalgar Bicentenary Collection from the Westminster Collection and on the initial leaflet it looked like there would be 12 in the set, although it wasn't indicated how many. I have recently contacted the Westminster to find out that there are 29 to collect of which I have 13 so far and in total this would equal a purchase cost of £1200 if completed. Obviously as this was marked as a limited edition set to 14,500 I am in two minds whether this set would be worth continuing to collect or whether to cut my losses now. The coins are £5 denomination - 925 Silver Proof - please can you advise whether this would be a sound investment or whether I should invest in different coins? If not a good investment - where can I go to sell my coins and would this be at a loss? Additionally could I go back to Westminster to complain that they miss sold their product by not confirming how many coins would have to be purchased? Many thanks Rachel --------------------------------------------- I asked her if she really thought that 14,500 people would really want the set of 29 coins in say 20 years. I told her that there would be very little demand and that she should cut her losses now. I think something really needs to be done to inform the public about this modern crap that is promoted as 'limited edition' delibrately to get people to buy it imagining that somehow it'll be like a 1934 crown in 10-30 years! I think it's morally wrong, and I hate it! It's enough to put people off coin collecting for life before they really experience real coin collecting. And I hope that as many people read this thread as possible.

I hear usually negative things about her. I bought something once and wasn't pleased with the 'as struck' description, because it wasn't. I kept it though, as it was inexpensive. She told me at the time that she has a BNTA member do the grading for her....As if that were some kind of guarantee, like all BNTA members can grade properly! I for one, don't think I'll buy anything again.

A book on British/Irish campaign medals of the last century, and hopefully a new Irish coin book.

Already done! It's not advanced, but includes a lot of history information. I'm talking to a typesetter at the moment!

There certainly is, especially if you don't collect gold or pre 1797 coins!

Ok! If you print it though, bear in mind that it won't be book quality 300dpi unless your printer is a good one and you use photo paper. Most home printers do about 150-200dpi on the page, whereas professionally produced books are at least 300dpi. But nevermind all the techie stuff, I'm sure you'll find it useful. When you buy it, it will be made instantly available to you.

The reason the printed version is black and white is purely to keep the retail price under £5.00. The costs are obviously higher to print full/part colour books. The actual book is generated electronically in full technicolour and the available electronic version is a full colour PDF. On the main predecimal.com book section if you have a look at the printed version there is an option to buy it and the colour PDF with a small saving! The PDF is only available through Rotographic/Predecimal!

Like it! Buy the Spink Book, and ask your questions here! Do Spink have a forum? If so, it's not as good as this one.

I very much doubt they went to all that effort with new dies, early strikings etc. Just try to get the most pristine examples you can and call it a day! The 1960 Exhibition one is pretty prooflike but always usually bag marked. And it's common for people to have put normal ones in the plastic cases.

As far as I know, the Specimen ones were the same as the 'circulation' issues. Unless you call the issues in the small plastic cases specimens, which is probably what the book means. But they are indistinguishable. Don't forget the wonderful Churchill Crown, and the 1960 and 1953, as well as the later ones (although they were all £5 coin type crowns).

That was successful wasn't it.

Ok, I'll delete the other 2 topics that you started on this Dave!