German

what is a real price for this coin? NGC slabbed - MS-63 thanks lot! P.S. I'm not looking for a book price - just want to know REAL market price

BTW we are frequently amused by american love for slabs. I'll keep my thoughts on origins of this infatuation to myself. but looks like some people can just make money out of nothing - and I like it. go-go-go-go!

yeah, here in Russia it's very popular coin too (for British and colonies coins collectors) - I'd say it's a key type . like a Gothic crown, but much more cheaper. well, 70% of SPINK price (I have 2003 edition at the moment) - 140 UK Pounds? that's all? yes, coin has few scratches at obvers - very light but they are visible

well, no ideas?

not bad too thank you, Chris

how much can it cost? no traces of circulation, bright and full red coin thank you

thanks a lot I have catalogues - spink, coincraft, krause etc but sometimes best way to use all this paper - in WC (sorry) so real price in UK for this coin - about 100 Pounds?

Very specific gouges are present on this coin close to the rim - this can be found on a lot of coins from this period. How would you explain this? obviously it's a defect, but what kind and how did it come to be? thank you

thanks a lot, Rob!

have you actually encountered something like this, and if so do you know the name of this process? or are we talking pure theory here?

electrotype copy, I think. probaly. it's CuSO4∙5H2O, + H₂SO₄ - electrolithe + cathode + anode +....... need more details? but chinise not are able ta make this: http://www.numizmat.net/forum/read.php?FID=2&TID=857 Sorry, dynamic pages in the tags are not allowed

about galvano:

it's a very simple chemical technology to make copies of coins or medals - do you really need a description? it's from 1850x years - simple and old technology - I don't think you have no idea about it. LOL? BTW i have no idea how it's called in Enlish but in Rusian it sounds like Galvanocopy, Galvanoplastics and so on.

in my previous message I'd lika to say this: josie, even if the seller has a good rep, they still may not pay close enough attention to all of their merchandise and let a fake slip through.

I'm sorry josie, but have you really know the record of the seller and its records of complaint to not to buy a fake?

looks like a galvanocopy

Hmm.. Edges seems to be absolutely different - take a look at attached image. Not only by milling style, but also by shape. Moreover that on right side is little bit thicker for me. very interesting situation with this double florin - 4 experts have seen it in a real life and only one of them said that it's impaired proof. 3 experts said it's real proof. also I've send photo of this coin to a very famous and respected expert via email and after he get photo of edge he said in't no dubt proof too well I still haven't my own opinion about this coin

Dear colleagues, sorry for boring you with a (probably) stupid questions, but ... Hope you'll forgive my extremal activity I'm not sure, but I've heard about used proof dies at Royal Mint - after strucking proof mintage this dies usually had been used for strucking circulation coins. But pairs ALWAYS had been separated. So, if we have struck by former proof die at obverse, we'll have usual reverse etc. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've seen a lot of such coins - can't say 'hoard' but 10-15 at last year - I'm speaking about Victory age. But I've seen similar 1832 farthing as well - full mirror field at obverse and usual reverse. Take a look at the picture please - as you can see this coins is graded by NGC experts as MS-63. It's really circulation coin - not a proof. Not polished planchet, single struck. But looks like it strucked by 2 proof dies - obverse and reverse. I'm not sure, but 99% it's true. Matt relief, mirror field at both sides. as we can see by obvers - very old (used) die was used for this struck - leon's eyes almost not visible and it's not trace of circulation - this shilling has a perfect, almost clean field with a bright mirror. How can you explain this fact? thank you and sorry if this question has been discussed here before

very nice BTW here's edges of usual DF and of presented on a previous photo - same year-type thanks a lot, Rob

thank you for a extremely fast replay! absolutely agree - the letters is 'dancing' but was it common occurrence when coins strucked by a polished dies? and please note - die not polished only - it has strong matt relief too Rob, what can you say about this coin? Obverse a little bit turbid, but still has a strong mirror field. Reverse is great for me thanks a lot for your help

thank you very much, Rob

First I'm sorry for my English - it's not my native language, so some mistakes and corrigendums will take place I'm collector from Russia, St.-Petersburg. My subject is UK and British colonys coins. It's a very simple coin of course but one detail attract my attantion. Please take a look at 3 dots at right side of a shield at reverse. Also similar dots are at obverse - is it variety or some die defect? I've never seen anything like this. thanks a lot. German

Rob, thanks a lot! One more question - what was the point of those marks?

common view np - just PM me pls and we'll try to find your previous business partner in St.-Petersburg thank you