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It was a Trajan coin. I thought I'd dip my toes in the water once more with them. Again it's gone pete tong. I've had nothing but bad luck with Roman coins. He appears to have listed the coin incorrectly or something. Here is the coin i bought , not at that price though, it was a BIN haggle. https://manor-coins.co.uk/product/r25-roman-imperial-high-grade-ar-denarius-trajan-98-117ad/ But here is what i recieved. I've settled for a full refund rather than try to get the coin advertised. Like you say it's probably a mistake on his behalf. I've purchased two coins off eBay recently , this is one and the others not arrived , the sellers not providing any information. Supposed to be sent 1st class recorded, no coin , no tracking and no comms. Had to put in a DNR which he hasn't responded to yet. ?

I got caught out today on the old switcheroo via eBay. Manor coins. Sent me a totally different grade coin to the one he listed. He's agreed a full refund. Bloody annoying though as I've got to go out and buy a padded envelope now and trek upto the PO to send it. The ups n downs of eBay!

Good result. Thanks again ! ?

Thank you. I fear you may get a GFY but thanks for trying. He's put too much effort into that scam to back down but I'll cross my fingers. Good luck. I stand corrected. Well done. It's gone!

I suppose it could do ? , would be an accurate representation. It's Westair Reproductions Limited.

I know. He's gone to a lot of trouble to research it and weigh it yet he omits the fact its a pewter lump. Dishonest to the core.

He knows a lot about this "coin" but fails to mention the huge WRL stamp slap bang in the middle of it! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/King-John-short-cross-penny-cross-Pommee-type-moneyer-SIMON-on-Canterbury/132389616191

Most definitely lol. Terrible one too. Found in grandads things! That old chesnut. Unfortunately with 2 hrs to go that buggers found it's self a new owner.

No worries lol. I am just getting ready for bed now meself. ?

Your welcome Gaz. You've got some really good short cross coins. You get stuck with anymore just post em up. ?

Here is a reasonable book for identification. I started out with this book many years ago. Its great value for money at under £10 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1902040732/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510006265&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=short+cross+coinage&dpPl=1&dpID=41AmhXmeH5L&ref=plSrch

Gileberd at Exeter. A coin of John. I'll look abit closer for the class.... Class 5b2. Thats a rare mint? Very nice find ?

I am swinging towards a Richard coin which would make this a Canterbury coin. Class wise i cannot say with 100% certainty unfortunately as critical details are worn. Based on the X and large N,s I'd say a class 4a but that is a guess.

Reinald is the moneyer. A Reinald minted under Henry II and Richard Ist at London , Canterbury and Northampton. I'd need to dig deeper to gather much more information. The mints a no goer I fear as it could be LVN , NOR or a simple CA.

Thanks. I can read them off by heart just looking at them and have memorised almost all of the moneyers. Nice find again. Great condition. Super !!

Class 7b1

Ioan chic at Canterbury. Henry III. I'll get back to you with the class once I've scrutinised it abit.?

Wow. Cool find. Must of missed this one. Great find!

Throughly agree. We are a dying breed on here , us hammered fans that is. I posted a nice short cross a few days ago. I think 2 people liked it , poor turn out that but to be fair it was posted in the wrong place. We need a recent hammered acquisitions thread or something along similar lines ?

Sure. Always happy to help if i can.

No problem, i like a challenge ?. Providing you have enough to ID you can usually find out the moneyer , mint or monarch. All 3 if your really lucky !

The joining of letters is called litigated. Its quite common on long cross coins. Your coins a class 5 coin. I cannot be more precise than that as i cannot make out the X in rex. Someone else may know the sub class. Clive is good with these. Short cross are more my thing. Nice finds by the way.

Ricard on lvn so Ricard at London. Not sure of the class as i don't have my books to hand.

It wasn't meant to be the full exact mint name, they couldn't fit it all on so it was abbreviated. I make it as IOH/OHS’/EDM/VHD which i suppose would translate as Ion at St edmunds so it would be SEDMUND as what looks like an H is actually an N and the V is a U. Hope that makes sense.?

No Terci is for three. King Henry Terci! It was eventually replaced in later class coins by III becoming HENRICUS REX III