Ukstu

It's a terrible counterfeit ?. Shocking , don't think I've ever seen one so bad lol.

Definitely a token. No coin would have such a terrible image of George IV on it. His hair looks like a bowl of spaghetti ? What's on the other side of it ?

The only thing stunning is that it raised £5.50. Its scrap.

Hi You need to upload images of the coin in question for anybody to be able to properly assist identification. Stu.

Welcome to the forum. I second that advice. Buy the best you can afford or you'll end up with coins your embarrassed to show in the future and which you'll regret purchasing. I started off with short cross coins as they were cheap and abundant back in the day. Just enjoy what ever you choose to start with and best of luck finding good examples . If you need any tips or help just post. Stu.

Thats the easy bit frank. Its resizing your image you may struggle with.

Ha ha. You've made a new best friend! I once messaged a woman selling an unidentified hammered kindly telling her what it was. She messaged me back a few days later about identifying a few other coins for her. I ended up with about 30 separate messages each containing a coin image. She wanted full ID including mintmarks, spink number and grade plus rough value. I don't bother messaging anybody no more with help requests ?.

Apologies. Typo. I meant styca. (Northumbria saxon) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styca

I've heard of that before. Interesting. I've got a few half pennys of Geo III & IV that are as black as coal but with a sheen almost as if somebody has painted them. Not sure if its a natural occurrence or man made alteration in antiquity.

I've only used it on low value bronzes (stychas) that where breaking out. Obviously after I've cleaned them up. If i had anything of any real value I'd probably not do it. Renaissance wax is used by museums for preserving almost everything once its under gone preservation. I've even heard of people using it on guns.

Could be shellacced or lacquered. Was quite common in old days for preserving coins in collections. Some people use ren wax on there bronzes also. I've used treborius balm on a few of my bronzes that where showing green spots.

With a image like that i couldn't say for certain. But i will add I've seen stuff that sellers been selling recently and none of its rung any alarm bells. I tend to avoid "butter lense" photographs and distance photo's lots as it could be an attempt to conceal something.

Thats normal. The heart shapes on all of them for that year , think its meant to be a pleat. I've no concerns what so ever about it. Looks great.

He eventually pulled it for a 2nd time. Not sure why. Perhaps he's planning on relisting it in the future as genuine. He copied and pasted the title from another similiar genuine coin that was listed on ebay. I shall keep my out for it resurfacing again. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322761216842 The real listing he filched his title from http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/R054-Henry-VIII-Hammered-Silver-Groat-posthumous-issue-under-Edward-VI-S-2404/201528050660

Lol. I guess we will be seeing it again after all! Someone will buy it and relist it as genuine no doubt. Oh well we tried?

? Lol. I thought when i saw the description perhaps it was a foreigner. Definitely pigeon engrish. Well at least he's understood what you've all said to him. Nice job again.

He's pulled it. ?

Could be. He seems to know its details & spink number. Seems to have done the trick guys....its gone..ended ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322760788759 Reported.

They could retract their bids. Its whether they go back over the description and realise. Doubtful.

I used to do it that way frank until i started using the method micks described. I've had more success the way micks described it. Its more specific and to the point. Little concerned now its got bids on it they may not pull it. He has edited the description but once someones bidding on it they are unlikely to go back and read that. Really it should be in the title so technically its still in breach of eBays code on replicas. They should still act and pull it.

Bad egg. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263215758889

I'd forgotten about that sword. Yeah its a milled coin so condition is better. I've a couple of high Q Briots myself. I still think its fishy though , can't put my finger on it though. I think I've seen the seller with fakes before and thats why i initially thought it was a fake. Totally agree about the price as well, its high. Generally people selling fakes on eBay continue to do so repeatedly, least thats what I've observed. I wonder if it could be an electotype. Be worth adding him as a fav seller and monitoring what he's selling. Another identical one may appear.

I saw that when it was first listed. My thoughts where exactly the same. Its pristine. I've never seen a coin of that age looking so untouched by time. Its definitely suspect. Something is not right about it. Gut instinct is screaming no!

Really? Unbelievable that. You'd of thought they would pull it the amount of reports they must of had. I didn't get round to ringing pennywise. If it appears again i will. Did anybody email the guy telling him it was a copy?