TomGoodheart

Short answer is, yes. You can get parts of the coin doubled and yet the rest mysteriously appears as it should. Not James, but a similar result for Charlie:

Like Rob, I keep it open on a tab, so pretty much whenever I'm on the internet I'll check. And I admit I'm on a lot, lookin for the barginz. Sometimes for new topics, sometimes to see replies to a post, other times just to check for spam (of which we've been thankfully free recently). .

Someone posted on coincommunity about an 1847 penny with no colon after REG. I believe this is type 2 rev? Not my area but is this of any interest? http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=182459 Anyone help him? Cheers!

Hmm .. difficult to tell from the photos Peter. But my guess is ..ooh, 9.89 grams. Thereabouts.

Not bad Tomo, though you might want to add some side lighting so that the boils cast more of a shadow (can't believe I just typed that LOL!) I find I sometimes have to rotate coins to vary where the shadows lie to best pick out the details I find most important. Bit of trial an error but worth experimenting after all, you're selling the errors (most everyone knows what a 20p piece looks like) so they need to stand out.

There are some shiny pennies in this auction and I know some people like that sort of thing so here's a link for anyone interested that doesn't receive their email newsletters: Stacks Bowers galleries Some trials, patterns and proofs too.

Ah, but sometimes I wonder if that's because they have the least supportive public in the world. The number of Americans who post things on the internet about how little they respect or trust their government and would like to do away with it all might make anyone paranoid! America feels to me like a paradox, on the one hand criticising certain elements for wanting to live by standards and cultural norms established in the middle ages and yet seeing no parallel with a constitution apparently drafted for life in the wild west...

Chas Shilling You said can click. But not whether it would be one you'd want to buy at that price!

If you do list on eBay, might be worth including the US site (for which pleasure you may have to pay extra) as it seems to me that error coins are a bit more popular that side of the Atlantic. And of course, good quality photos will be needed. Be interesting to hear how you get on! (Oh, shall I delete your other thread Tomo? This one seems busier and as it's appropriate to the topic ...)

I've yet to decide whether this is a terrible thing or not. Bottom line is that it seems to me that coin collecting has changed hugely from when the last decent collections were formed. Between the 1920s and, say, 1970s some fairly major collections were formed by teachers, pharmacists, solicitors and the like. They weren't all filled with top end material (although some were) but a steady scholarly approach meant that a good representative collection could be formed. Where there was a challenge it was as much for the need for patience as cash, as rarer pieces were less unaffordable and more that you'd have to wait your turn to get one. But for the most part I suspect that is no longer possible. Whether because of the number of buyers or amount of money available to buy, it seems to be becoming increasingly difficult to fill gaps in collections. I don't know what's happening to those coins because I don't know any 'investors'. They might be being collected and researched and studied. Or they may be locked straight into vaults only to see the light of day when next presented at some auction house. The terrible thing would be if collectors like me and Dave etc have to settle for lesser material because all the better pieces are taken out of numismatic circulation and transferred to the Fine Art market. However if those coins are carefully held and will become available to regular collectors in time (ideally after the taste for coins as investments cools a bit and prices return to more sensible levels) then it wouldn't perhaps be so bad. Obviously I don't expect the coins I want to return to the prices they were 5 or 3 years ago. Any more than I expect a house to cost what it did in 1980. But I'd like to think that a decent proportion of the coins I still would like to obtain will remain affordable. Otherwise I might as well pack it in today.

Sell? More likely they would just disappear into Baldwin's magic basement for a decade or ten.

I just read that Lou Reed died. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJpQJWpVJds Brings back happy memories.

For those that just want to see a pic:

LOLOL! Oh, and I've had confirmation both groats in the earlier listing are copies which means it's a hat-trick for the seller as all three coins listed are now confirmed fakes! :angry:

The shape of the bell shilling is the same as the ones on forgerynetwork. All are quite toned dirty and so it's difficult to be 100% from the photos. But I wouldn't buy any of them .. or advise anyone else to.

Pretty certain the Charles I shilling is fake. The rest ..well, I'm not sure about them, but they aren't my area. Anyone any views? http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/millfield2002/m.html?item=331254698500&hash=item4d20519204&pt=UK_Coins_BritishHammered_RL&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

Thanks Rob! That's very helpful. It would have been a bit below £100, so not ridiculous, but not a bargain either. Going to take me some time to get my eye in with this sort of thing I think! Maybe I'll just stick to Charlies!

OK Guys. Real or fake please? Thanks!

Good grief! One of the sellers has even called themselves PCGS! Sorry I sold my Northumberland now. Not sure I'd risk buying another!

Except that George and the Dragon is not British in origin - is it Maltese or something like that? That may well be so, but the US market will associate it with the UK surely, and would have done back then too? Maybe it just worked as a complex image that showed off the engraver's skill? The fact that it was (presumably) a recognisable image might even have been an advantage, giving recipients a chance to decide if it was a good rendition or not?

Anything exciting (to me that is!)? Maybe. I bought the E5/2That was the one! I thought the prices more realistic than of late. I'd be interested to see a photo if you take one Rob. Looked like a decent strike, but it can be hard to tell sometimes without viewing personally.

Anything exciting (to me that is!)?

I've just emailed Lockdales about Lot #1039 (Charles I silver shilling) in their next sale. Has the same broken inner circle as Dave's Scottish purchase. The groat afaik is fine.

Not sure about Taco Bell napkins, but Manilla envelopes used to be mentioned as being effective. Trouble is, as Stuart says (and of course, he's to the only one to have 'experimented') the results can rarely be guaranteed. This makes the slow approach probably a bit safer, though not as satisfactory as darkening a coin within minutes. But there's still a risk that you'll end up with something that you like less than the original. Or, and I presume this may be due to how or what was used to 'brighten' a coin previously, there do seem to be some that just stay bright. If someone could create a product that gave controllable, consistent results, I suspect they would make a lot of money!

Hi Westing. Welcome. We do have a couple of US based members, though they've not commented on this thread yet. Can you tell us which state (or city) you're in, in case they might be interested? An alternative is Coin Community Forum, which is a US based coin forum. The advantages are obviously geographic. The disadvantages are firstly, less specialised collectors of British coins there. Secondly you need to have a minimum number of posts (250) and have been a member there for a certain length of time (90 days) before you can offer items for sale. Not unreasonable, since they are trying to attract people who want to talk about coins, rather than just come on to sell. But a little inconvenient. Finally, as you've no doubt realised, many people, including dealers, will only really be interested in the rarest and best condition coins. If you are prepared to take a bit of time to identify any such 'key' coins (and I'm sure people here will be happy to guide you to scarcer dates, identify varieties etc) had you considered perhaps letting the remainder go, perhaps through a local coin club to some younger collectors or people looking for some British coins for diversity? A LCC might also help you thin, research or build the parts of your collection you are more interested in?